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To: LonelyCon

Let me get this straight...

Catholic=Pro-Life
Catholic = life at conception - fetus is a person
Catholic = ani-abortion

But now that there is a lawsuit they could lose, for convenience sake -

Catholic = fetus is not life/people?

And “church” folks wonder why the world thinks they are a bunch of hypocrites (applies to all denominations).


5 posted on 01/24/2013 11:48:57 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman

Ya, well Catholic Health Iniitiatives supported Obamacare, even applauding the Supreme Court decision; not really faithful the Church doctrine in my book (mandating contraception coverage). However, if you’d like to argue that the U.S. Catholic Bishops should fought universal healthcare, instead of trying to make a deal with the devil, I’d support you on that.
http://johnmalloysdb.blogspot.com/2013/01/surprise-surprise-obamacare-supporting.html


6 posted on 01/24/2013 12:03:10 PM PST by pitviper68
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To: TheBattman
I would agree with you strongly, Batt, if I thought "the Church" were saying that the unborn twins weren't human --- but, hear me out --- that's not what they're saying.

Or at least, it's not clear from this article.

Having been named in a lawsuit, the hospital is required to respond with a legal argument. Perhaps it would have been better to say “As a Catholic hospital, we absolutely know that life begins at conception, but the law of Colorado does not recognize a fetus as a human being,” but the first half of that statement is not a legal argument and doesn’t, technically speaking, belong in a court pleading.

What if the hospital didn't do anything wrong? If that's the case (and we have only the father’s claim, as relayed by an inflammatory article), then should they just skip legal argument, and pay money to the father regartdless of their own innocense? Is that just?

Based on the information we have, it is entirely possible that the hospital did everything in its power to save the lives and that it bears no fault. It is also possible that the father, wracked with grief (and conceivably even guilt), wants money to soothe his conscience or whatever. We really don’t know. If so, however, the (inevitable) millions paid by the hospital would be money not available for maintaining good treatment standards, hiring excellent doctors and staff, and so on. It would also mean that anyone, no matter how dishonest their claim, could get free money from this hospital.

It comes down to this: facts and law are not the same thing. It is possible to be entirely good and yet legally liable, and also to be thoroughly malicious and yet not break any laws. That these twins were living human beings is a fact, but that Colorado doesn’t recognize this is the law.

This is win-win (or at least, win-draw) for the pro-life cause, ecause if the court "finds" that the babies were "human" --- wich they should --- that sets an enormously important precedent for pro-life; but if not, the hospital can still argue "on the merits" that they didn't do anything wrong. IF that was the case.

We need more information on that, don't we?

23 posted on 01/24/2013 3:33:53 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Credulity is belief with scant evidence, with no evidence, or against evidence.)
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