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Women must meet same physical standards as men under new order (Link Only)

Posted on 01/24/2013 12:40:27 PM PST by JerseyanExile

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To: JerseyanExile

Standards? What standards? We don’t do standards in the US anymore.


41 posted on 01/24/2013 2:11:47 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: JerseyanExile

I am woman, hear me roar!!

“Hey, this is unfair...it’s my time of the month...blah...blah...blah!”

Sorry, but the standards will be lowered.


42 posted on 01/24/2013 2:35:15 PM PST by Artcore
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The article is a mess.

First, candidates attend the Officer Candidates School, 10 weeks. Then they attend the The Basic School at Quantico, 21 weeks.

After all that, the 2nd Lieutenants choose a military occupation specialty school, one of which is the Infantry Officer Course. It is a brutal course that has no gender separate standards and it is brutal and many men wash out and transfer to easier schools.


43 posted on 01/24/2013 2:58:16 PM PST by gandalftb
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I know and I have been mentioning this for many years. As I said here yesterday, wait until the Dems nominate a female liberal because the signs at the convention won't be just pro-woman, they will be anti-male including mentioning private parts.

How about slaps to the face? That is generally accepted, even in ads. Two days ago, I was switching around the radio channels and came across sports radio (something I generally avoid). The male host said his wife told him to do something the prior day, he forgot and “when I got home, my wife gave me five fingers across the face.” Why do men deal with this? If he is trying to make a joke, how is that funny? That is a sign of submission. Would any woman say “Hey, my husband gave me five across the face?”

44 posted on 01/24/2013 3:11:45 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test
45 posted on 01/24/2013 5:16:01 PM PST by randita
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America is done. Prepare and Protect your own family. Hopefully you'll be around to pick up the pieces.

I'm not devastated by the demise of my country. Sorta like watching a friend with a terminal illness.

Nothing I can do about it. Hope it's quick and let's move on.

The founders saw this coming.

46 posted on 01/24/2013 5:26:16 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: EEGator
"No, they shouldn’t. What happens if she gets pregnant? If a team gets captured, they’ll use the female against the males. You can’t train away human nature. This applies to both sexes."

Women take up slots that the men have been put in for temporary duty for decades, either because they are injured and on light duty or because of family situations that can be handled in the short term. Now many of those positions are manned by women military members all the time and commanders do not have the options they used to have.

Nope, let them try. I'm a retired Ranger and have seen more than a few who thought they could get the job done, they didn't. If anything raise the requirements and shrink the force by ability and not this top down BS force reduction plan we are looking at.
The washout rate in Ranger school is pretty high. The ring out rate for the SEALS is also very high even for those who manage to pass all the physical tests to get that far.
Let the ladies try and we don't have to defend the outcome.

The very real fact is that many men who are in great physical shape fail to qualify for the ranger tab or the ability to call themselves a SEAL. I'm all for the women to have equal opportunities but no special treatment for anything at any time. Period.

47 posted on 01/24/2013 5:33:59 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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What if the female passes, that doesn’t answer the other problems associated with females on the front lines. I think it goes far beyond just PT standards.

As an aside, did you do your training at Ft. Benning?


48 posted on 01/24/2013 5:45:26 PM PST by EEGator
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I trained at Benning and many other Ranger/ARMY and even a couple Air Force schools. There are no female Rangers at this time. I have watched some fantastic young ladies try but the physical requirements get them every time.

The whole military concept it changing to smaller more specialized units having more ability, maneuverability, quicker response/deployment, and firepower. This is the way of the future. Increase the standards so these smaller units are truly the best of the best. The rest will take care of itself.

49 posted on 01/24/2013 6:11:03 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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Just wondering. I took the PAST for PJ’s in Basic and passed. I asked the SSgt if I washed out did I keep my guaranteed AFSC and he said no, so I said no. I think they just wanted a 100% commitment.


50 posted on 01/24/2013 6:17:59 PM PST by EEGator
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The AF para Rescue are some folks I respect. They are always looking for total commitment but the training commands are also always trying to fill very specific slots. If they didn't have an extra slot someplace else for that AFSC then it would not have met their manning requirements.
Just how the cookie crumbles in those units.
My primary specialty was as a dog handler but I had to complete Ranger school to go to K-9 school in Texas at Lackland AFB. My secondary MOS was combat shooter. I ended up attending several K-9 courses at Lackland. The AF was training all military dog handlers at that time so that is were we all went.
51 posted on 01/24/2013 6:39:00 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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