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Columbia Shuttle Crew Not Told of Possible Problem With Reentry
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Posted on 01/31/2013 8:35:29 PM PST by chessplayer

What would you tell seven astronauts if you knew their space shuttle was crippled on orbit?

It was a question that faced NASA's Mission Control considered after initial suspicions that something might be wrong with the shuttle Columbia as it was making its doomed reentry in 2003.

Wayne Hale, who later became space shuttle program manager, struggled with this question after the deaths of the Columbia crew 10 years ago. Recently he wrote about the debate in his blog, recalling a meeting to discuss the dilemma:

"After one of the MMTs (Mission Management Team) when possible damage to the orbiter was discussed, he (Flight Director Jon Harpold) gave me his opinion: 'You know, there is nothing we can do about damage to the TPS (Thermal Protection System). If it has been damaged it's probably better not to know. I think the crew would rather not know. Don't you think it would be better for them to have a happy successful flight and die unexpectedly during entry than to stay on orbit, knowing that there was nothing to be done, until the air ran out?"

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Wow. Tough decision. Not tell them, or tell them and have them up there for a week thinking about slowly suffocating to death.
1 posted on 01/31/2013 8:35:35 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

If it was me, I would rather know and stay in orbit than merrily come back only to be blown apart and spread all over the Southwest.


2 posted on 01/31/2013 8:42:29 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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You have to tell them. Let them make the decision.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 8:42:41 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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I would have preferred not to know. A quick death on re-ntry is preferable to slow suffocation.


4 posted on 01/31/2013 8:46:28 PM PST by chessplayer
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Don't get me started about the “truth”

Wild ass guess..You've never been in the Military?...right?

5 posted on 01/31/2013 8:47:02 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: chessplayer

They might have thought of something to do...

Beauraucrats want us all to die.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 8:48:32 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: chessplayer
If they were children (you know, like Jim Henson's Astronaut Babies) then you can make the decision for them.

How insulting that these humps decided what these extraordinarily capable and brave adults were allowed to know about their own fate.

You tell them the risks and wish them luck.

7 posted on 01/31/2013 8:51:20 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: chessplayer

I think you have to tell them. What if they wanted to communicate with a friend or family member? What if something could have been done, some how? What if they wanted to pray before attempting reentry?


8 posted on 01/31/2013 8:52:24 PM PST by MacMattico
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They might have thought of something to do...

I wait for your insight with bated breath......

Not being a smart arse, just wondering what other choices there could have been. Send the Russians up?

9 posted on 01/31/2013 8:58:14 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: M-cubed

Don’t get me started about the “truth”

Wild ass guess..You’ve never been in the Military?...right?


Yeah, I have. What the hell does that snide ass question have to do with this?


10 posted on 01/31/2013 8:59:03 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: doorgunner69

If you had a aortic aneurysm and surgery was impossible, would you want to know, or just let it burst and drop down dead one day?


11 posted on 01/31/2013 9:01:36 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: chessplayer

Never crossed anyone’s mind that someone on the crew may have a particular faith, and would have wanted the time to contemplate their eternity?


12 posted on 01/31/2013 9:02:59 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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"Wow. Tough decision"

Easy decision to me, confirm damage, attempt repair if unable to repair keep space craft in orbit. Shuttle could at some point be repaired and safely returned to Earth. Crew is doomed, but space craft is not.

13 posted on 01/31/2013 9:03:46 PM PST by jpsb
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What if they wanted to pray before attempting reentry?

If they are not praying prior to re-entry I'm not sure what their prayers are worth anyway.

14 posted on 01/31/2013 9:04:26 PM PST by Starstruck (All goverments become tyrannical. Individuals determine when they do.)
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To: LukeL

I believe that qualifies as a non-sequitor.....


15 posted on 01/31/2013 9:05:39 PM PST by doorgunner69
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If you had a aortic aneurysm and surgery was impossible, would you want to know, or just let it burst and drop down dead one day?

One of my Mom's friends was in exactly that situation...she lived 8 or 10 years after she knew about it.

16 posted on 01/31/2013 9:05:44 PM PST by garandgal
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No idea.

But, having come up with solutions when I have been in impossible desperate situations, I believe they could have, might have, too.

‘Neccessity is the mother of invention’ would apply. Maybe they could not have helped themselves but at least they could have tried.

I would want the chance.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 9:06:56 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: chessplayer
What the hell does that snide ass question have to do with this?<<<<

*G*..answer the 7th post to ya...you'll get to see *W*

18 posted on 01/31/2013 9:07:41 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: chessplayer

This was not the same NASA that saved Apollo 13.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 9:08:17 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: dead

My thought is that they know the risks going in. They would have reconciled this with their loved ones prior to the mission. WIth no ability to alter their fate onboard I agree with the decision.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 9:09:15 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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