Posted on 02/02/2013 7:01:42 PM PST by hawkeye101
>> Posters online have frequently been very lax about specifying who they’re talking about
The perp was not known at the time of my post, so it didn’t seem like an ambiguous reference.
I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding this short paragraph. Who are you talking about here, with the "HE" reference? Who's the antecedent?
The wording as written is ambiguous and possibly misleading. Is "HE" Jared Loughner? Judge Roll? Abercrombie? Who is Abercrombie, and why do we care what Abercrombie thinks?
Judging by the look on her face, this old girl is Trouble herself. You may be looking at the reason two men died and another's gonna.
BHO is beginning his whirlwind tour to promote his gun-control agenda today...
Why should he bother with the death of one of our best???
Abercrombie is the HI governor who told the NY Times and LA Times in late Dec of 2010 that he was going to make Obama’s BC public because he was worried about the states that might pass an eligibility bill. AZ had passed an eligibility bill early in 2010 that had been vetoed by Gov Brewer, but the 2010 landslide had resulted in a veto-proof R majority in both houses.
About 2 weeks later the judge who would hear any DOJ challenges to an AZ eligibility bill, Judge John Roll, was assassinated in Phoenix by Jared Loughner, a guy who had applied at the military base there and been rejected because the drug test came back positive. The background check would also probably have revealed his schizophrenia-like behavior. That military base is where they do the research on mind control, and the typical assassin is one who would be disbelieved if he said he’d been subject to mind control because he was schizophrenic and/or using drugs. Loughner was familiar with mind-control techniques and actually even had some of them on his myspace (?) page. Another guy who was at the scene when the assassination took place was former military, on disability for PTSD, and was familiar with mind-control techniques also. He was eventually arrested for threatening the Tea Party and/or Sarah Palin (can’t remember exactly which) at a meeting regarding that shooting attack.
The shooting itself was posed as an attempted assassination of Rep Gabby Giffords. The investigation was initially done by Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, who immediately blamed everything on the Tea Party and Sarah Palin, as did DHS. When people began to question whether the actual intent had been to kill Judge Roll, who had much more power than Giffords, a new search of Loughner’s house uncovered an old letter to Gabby Giffords and a note saying that his intended target was Giffords (how convenient!). In addition, Dupnik set forward a story claiming he knew Roll’s routines and routes to walk, etc but later Roll’s family revealed that though he did often visit Giffords when she was in town, he was at that place that morning because somebody had called to remind him that Giffords was going to be there.
All this happened just when Gov Abercrombie was not able to “locate” a BC for Obama anywhere in Hawaii and needed law enforcement to say that Obama’s life was in danger from those crazy, violent birthers (like in AZ...) if the HDOH didn’t create a totally fake BC for Obama.
But Abercrombie ran into trouble with the plan to create the fake. Because Obama didn’t have a valid HI BC as required by the statute that allows a fake to be created at the request of law enforcement, the HDOH director, Neal Palafox, balked. A Star-Advertiser columnist asked Abercrombie in mid-January how his search for Obama’s BC was coming along, and Abercrombie told him they had found something in the archives, “actually written down”. It was such a bizarre statement for a BC that should have been very easy to locate if it existed, and was reported on Drudge, where Abercrombie’s friend Mike Evans saw it. Curious, he called Abercrombie to ask about it, and Abercrombie told him he couldn’t find a BC for Obama in HI. He also said the first time he saw Obama in HI as a child was when Obama was T-ball age - about 6, which contradicted Abercrombie’s adamant public claims that he had seen Obama as a baby with SAD and BHO. Evans, being an honest soul and not yet threatened, went on multiple radio shows and reported his conversation with Abercrombie. That also got reported on Drudge. Shortly after that Evans claimed that he had never even said he spoke to Abercrombie, but the audio itself belies that, because he gave the back-and-forth question and answer between him and Abercrombie.
With a full-fledged public mess on their hands, Abercrombie and his AG forced Palafox to resign about a week later. The HDOH Communications Director, Janice Okubo, claimed that Palafox had resigned for “personal reasons” and Abercrombie denied that he had forced the resignation. The AG’s office put out anonymous rumors that Palafox was being investigated for Medicare fraud but none of the required notifications for that investigation had been done. Ultimately Palafox wouldn’t play along. When asked why he resigned he said he didn’t know, and eventually Abercrombie had to admit that he had forced Palafox to resign, though he wouldn’t say why.
Palafox was replaced by Loretta Fuddy, who IMMEDIATELY set in place “policy” that violated HI’s open records law, HI’s vital records law, and the HDOH Administrative Rules. She made it so that no copies of the original records will be accessible to qualified requestors, but only records that are generated by a computer - which can easily be manipulated.
And manipulate she did. In addition to Obama’s BC, 3 other August 1961 BC#’s shown on vital records copies from the HDOH could not have been the BC#’s they had in 1961. BUT those copies all have blatant signs of forgery, so whoever was ordered to make those forgeries at the HDOH went out of their way to put in red flags to show that these were forgeries. The manipulation of BC#’s is how we know that the “law enforcement’s request” provision was used by the HDOH to come up with a BC for Obama even though Abercrombie himself had only noted something “actually written down” in the archives and couldn’t find an actual BC.
It also explains how they can have a BC on file that makes all the same birth claims as on the fabrication in the HDOH and yet HI registrar Alvin Onaka has refused to verify any birth facts submitted for verification by AZ SOS Ken Bennett and steadfastly refused to verify to Bennett that the WH image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” or to KS SOS Kobach that the information contained in the WH image is “identical to” the information contained in the original record. They have no legally valid BC for Obama in Hawaii, and the one they’ve got that has the same claims as on the WH image is a total fabrication that says whatever law enforcement (Eric Holder?) told them to put on it.
And Holder’s (?) basis for ordering a fake BC to be created was the shooting by Jared Loughner in the state where an eligibility bill was expected to be enacted.
The political and legal motives explain the external behaviors that had us all rubbing our chins. With a little help from the military base that trains assassins, the regime was able to replace the Constitutional judge who would have decided the Constitutionality of AZ’s expected eligibility bill with one of Obama’s choosing AND come out with a totally fabricated BC for Obama.
Yes, that was me that posted the information.
"A perforated bowel is a medical emergency...if not treated can cause almost immediate death."
See link to the thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2881082/posts?q=1&;page=201
Just so weird/suspicious. I haven't had time to sort it all out. I've been wondering what took so long to find out what happened to Cormier and your earlier post made me do a quick search.
I was surprised to see the autopsy was finally public.
Really good post.
Very strange. Cormier was murdered. That’s for sure.
It sure does. Problems all over the place.
The police seem like a PR firm for the murderer/s.
Ping
To #288 and #294
Article on autopsy of Michael Cormier (Breitbart-autopsy technician). Arsenic poisoning.
I had forgotten who posted that, but it makes sense that it was you. You do great work! =)
In the first article - where the police supposedly “debunked” the connection to Breitbart - the police said they were done investigating Cormier’s death until they got a cause of death in the autopsy. They admitted they were not doing any investigating while the evidence and memories of the witnesses were fresh.
If they knew there was way too much arsenic in Cormier’s body (and they did) and knew that Cormier had gone to the hospital because he believed he had been poisoned (which they did) they would have known it was not suicide, they would have known the time of poisoning to within an hour, would have known where he was at during that hour, and would have had just cause to question people and trace this poisoning down to its source. Waiting would cause them to lose those leads.
So what did they do? They gave up the investigation, supposedly in the name of waiting for a cause of death (which was irrelevant at that point).
That’s like having the smoking gun and seeing the one who dropped it running down the street to get away and choosing to go take a bubble bath instead of pursuing them.
Stinks to high, high heaven.
Yep. You'd think this case would of had priority regardless of any connection (rightly or wrongly) to Breitbart.
If it wasn't suicide, if the wife is innocent, and if Breitbart was not a factor then shouldn't the other lab workers feel a little alarmed?
Nah. Let's take a bubble bath.
Adam and others were very good friends, not only of Andrew, but of his widow. I was invited to the memorial ceremony, but could not attend. But you CLEARLY know him better than any of us . . . .
I make no claims of knowing him or anybody else. I simply noted that the coroner (who according to the flow chart for protocols there would have looked at his medical records by then) said Andrew had not seen a doctor for at least the last year before his death, which contradicts the stories we’ve been told by his friends.
I respected Andrew and I am very, very sad that he died. I know it is difficult for his family and friends and I don’t want to put any unnecessary stress on any of them.
I do think Andrew would want us to deal with the facts, though, and that’s what I’m doing. Are the friends claiming that his medical records were altered, that they didn’t show the doctor visits he had, to deal with his heart condition?
Again, you clearly are aware of what he “would” or “wouldn’t” do better than those who actually know him. After all, you know his medical history.
No, the coroner knew his medical history, and said he had not seen a doctor for at least a year before he died.
I try not to read emotions into the written page but we all do it. It seems like the points you are making are emotional in nature, which is understandable considering your emotional investment as a friend. But emotions can’t replace facts, and the emotion that isn’t able to account for the facts is what gives the appearance of desperation.
I don’t want a quarrel with you. I’ve suffered loss of my own and don’t want to make your grieving any more difficult than it already is.
What I’d really like - not necessarily from you but from SOMEBODY - is an explanation of the coroner’s statement that Andrew had not seen a doctor for at least the last year, if Andrew had a history of heart problems and/or had been hospitalized with a heart attack 6 months before his death.
That was Bob Basso of Hawaii. Have not heard from him in a lomg time.
I feel like I'm back in 7th grade English :)
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