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Senate plan would give Napolitano the final say on border security
The Hill ^ | 2/02/13 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 02/03/2013 6:40:06 AM PST by Libloather

Under a bipartisan Senate framework, Democrats say, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano would have final say over whether the border is secure enough to put 11 million illegal immigrants on a path to citizenship.

If Napolitano does not provide the green light for putting illegal immigrants on a pathway to citizenship, the responsibility for judging whether the metrics for border security have been met will be given to her successor.

The early debate over immigration reform has yielded two thorny questions: What metrics will be used to determine whether the goals for border security and other safeguards against illegal immigration have been met? Who will decide whether the metrics have been achieved?

Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the lead Democratic sponsor of the bipartisan immigration reform framework unveiled this past week, said Napolitano should decide.

“What we’ve proposed is that the DHS secretary, whomever it is, will have final say on [whether] whatever metrics we proposes are met,” Schumer said. “We think those metrics will be quite objective.”

Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the lead Republican sponsor of the framework, said the issue is under discussion within the Gang of Eight.

“We’re working on a lot of it,” he said.

But the idea of letting Napolitano, who plans to stay in the cabinet for President Obama’s second term, or a future secretary of Homeland Security make the final call on the border has sparked alarm among other Republicans.

“My constituents are not going to accept a Washington bureaucrat making a representation the border is secure when they know it’s not true. So that’s unacceptable,” said Senate Republican Whip John Cornyn, who represents Texas.

There are other tough issues that could derail immigration reform negotiations. These include the establishment of an entry-exit visa system to track whether persons who enter the country leave when they are supposed to. An estimated 40 percent of illegal immigrants have overstayed their visas.

Another is the question of how to handle the future flow of workers for so-called low-skill jobs in meat processing, hospitality and other service industries. Some lawmakers say disagreements over a guest worker program blew up a comprehensive reform bill in the Senate in 2007.

The proposal to make border security a condition for allowing illegal immigrants onto a pathway to citizenship has emerged as the biggest disagreement in the early debate. Obama pointedly did not call for it during a speech in Las Vegas, Tuesday.

The Senate framework would create a commission made up of governors, attorneys general and community leaders from Southwestern border states to recommend when border security goals have been met.

They could not render the final judgment, however, because lawmakers fear that would violate the Constitution.

McCain says the commission nevertheless will have a significant influence.

“The Constitution requires that action taken by the Congress is not dictated by a commission. We will be guided to a large degree by their conclusions and recommendations,” he said.

The bipartisan Senate group envisions metrics for border security that can be objectively verified, such as target numbers for border patrol agents and unmanned aerial surveillance vehicles.

“They will be objective so there’s not that much leeway,” Schumer said. “What we envision is that because they [are] objective, the advisory committee and DHS will in all likelihood agree.”

Members of the Gang of Eight would like to put in place a sequential process.

The commission of Southwestern officials would submit evaluations of border security that Napolitano or another DHS secretary would then approve. Democrats say Napolitano would not have unilateral power to put 11 million immigrants on a pathway to citizenship.

Advocates for a fast path to citizenship say Napolitano or someone else in the Obama administration would be a preferable choice to make the call.

“Having the DHS secretary decide rather than (Arizona Gov.) Jan Brewer decide is obviously a no-brainer,” said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice.

Sharry said “having clear metrics be the goalpost rather than the moving goalpost that Republicans have been engaged in the last five years is much better.”

“But any condition that leaves room for mischief is a potential problem,” he added.

Democrats and advocates for a relatively fast pathway to citizenship worry border security could become an excuse for delay.

Sharry and his allies say it should not be conditioned on further enforcement “when the border is already secure.”

He points to a dramatic increase to more than 21,000 border guards in the last several years and a large decrease in net levels of illegal immigration from Mexico, according to a study by the Pew Hispanic Center.

Rosemary Jenks, director of government relations for NumbersUSA, which supports reduced immigration levels, said even with the trigger endorsed by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a member of the Gang of Eight, the Senate framework would grant immediate amnesty to 11 million illegal immigrants.

“On Day One, illegal aliens step forward and get their probationary status and essentially get on the path. They start the path right there, Day One,” she said. “So the triggers are pretty much useless anyway.”

Jenks also argued the plank of the Senate framework requiring the completion of an entry-exit system to track whether visitors leave the country on schedule includes a big loophole. She said the entry-exit system would be ineffective because it would track only people entering and leaving the United States via airports and seaports.

“Do we really believe that agricultural workers are going to be flying into the country through airports or cruising in to seaports?” she said. “You just totally exempted them from the entry-exit system. You exempted everyone who comes across the Southern border and the Northern border.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; bhodhs; border; bordersecurity; dhs; napolitano; security; senate
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1 posted on 02/03/2013 6:40:16 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!! If the Republican Senators let this pass, the border will remain a sieve. Drugs, illegals, guns, etc., etc., etc. WILL SOMEBODY STOP THE MADNESS??
2 posted on 02/03/2013 7:14:48 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Libloather

Well, hasn’t Big Sis already declared the border the most secure it’s ever been? Should be no problem at all to rapidly move to a fully secure border.

Is Rubio on board with this?


3 posted on 02/03/2013 7:27:28 AM PST by Will88
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To: Libloather

To Rush and Levin: I think this is proof enough of how sincere Rubio is about his ‘comprehensive amnesty’ plan.


4 posted on 02/03/2013 7:39:18 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Libloather

The Democrats promised Ronald Reagan that their amnesty would include a million illegals. It turned into more than three million.

If this crowd is still saying “eleven million,” be assured that we’re talking at least three times that many, in fact.

Thirty million or more.

Equal to ten percent of the US population.

More than fifty electoral votes.

More than forty Congressional seats.

And the beginning of the process of drawing ten times as many again across our borders illegally.

We’ve already got half of Mexico here. Is there anyone who thinks we can accommodate half of Asia?


5 posted on 02/03/2013 7:40:42 AM PST by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident.)
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To: Libloather

SOP. They are abdicating their constitutional authority and responsibility to a unelected alphabet bureaucracy. They can then absolve themselves of any adverse desisions made by that agency.

We are no longer represented.


6 posted on 02/03/2013 8:16:07 AM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PJammers

Let me add that the bureaucracy is headed by a presidential appointee, who does his bidding. Stroke of the pen, law of the land.

Our dictatorship is forming quite nicely.


7 posted on 02/03/2013 8:24:45 AM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: originalbuckeye

I know it’s rhetorical. The same Senators that tabled Rand Paul’s anti-sale to Egypt? The same gaggle that confirmed Kerry for SoS? The feckless bunch who allowed NO pressing questions RE: Beinghazi?

There IS no difference between the ‘two’ sides of the aisle these days.

I’m DREAMING that the Tea party, in ‘14, for EVERY seat they wish to take, puts out commercial after commercial of DEM vs. GOPe voting record with the tagline “Vote for a difference in D.C.”


8 posted on 02/03/2013 8:28:36 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: originalbuckeye
If the Republican Senators let this pass, the border will remain a sieve.

Republicans, in order to look like nice guys, are thinking of voting to give amnesty to millions of people who have invaded our nation, will increase the entitlement voting bloc of the Democrat party, and will enrage people who would normally vote Republican. Sounds like a great plan!

9 posted on 02/03/2013 8:34:05 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Libloather

And people still call Amnesty Liberal Marco Rubio a “conservative”??

Letting Janet Napolitano determine border security is like letting Kim Kardashian inspect chastity belts


10 posted on 02/03/2013 9:07:20 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Libloather

Didn’t she propose bring scissors to a gun fight.


11 posted on 02/03/2013 9:21:35 AM PST by Starstruck (All goverments become tyrannical. Individuals determine when they do.)
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To: Libloather

The GOP wants their piece of that hispanic voting block pie. They have been fantasizing over it for decades. They are already spring loaded to the “surrender” position.


12 posted on 02/03/2013 9:26:33 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: Libloather

A deal killer.


13 posted on 02/03/2013 10:00:41 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: TADSLOS
The GOP probably will get that 30% of the hispanic vote they're after, to add to their 60% of the caucasian vote, 40% of the asian vote and 10% of the black vote.

With 140% of the vote locked up Rove & co are sure they'll be a shoo-in for the next election cycle.

14 posted on 02/03/2013 11:01:32 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Libloather
Anything left to Crappy Nappy IS TOTALLY UNACEPTABLE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW

I live in AZ where she was our Gov. and have been overrun by a turd world country, no thanks to her. She better not come back here when she departs the Hussein Admin.
15 posted on 02/03/2013 11:09:40 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: skeeter
The GOP probably will get that 30% of the hispanic vote they're after, to add to their 60% of the caucasian vote, 40% of the asian vote and 10% of the black vote.

Yeah, just like they did in 2008 and 2012. Rove can shove that white board of his up his fourth point of contact.

16 posted on 02/03/2013 11:39:05 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: Libloather

17 posted on 02/03/2013 1:14:39 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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