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To: from occupied ga

Perhaps I should be more specific.

We up-staters consider NYC to include the surrounding area, i.e. NY Metro. The population of NYC and the adjacent area is 22 Million people, mostly liberals. Of course, there are pockets of Marxists/Socialists upstate as well, Ithaca, Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, etc.

Think Atlanta as opposed to the balance of your state.

“The New York City Metropolitan Area’s population is the United States’ largest, with 18.9 million people distributed over 6,720 square miles (17,400 km2),[29][30] and is also part of the most populous combined statistical area in the United States, containing 22.1 million people as of the 2010 Census.[31]”

Yes, we upstaters are outnumbered, but not by much and that margin is narrowing. So, you might say that we too.... are “occupied”.

A normal thinking adult would show their support for us upstate CONSERVATIVE NY’ers who are battling the strictest anti-gun laws in our country.

You, however, seem to attack us at every opportunity. We are not only fighting for our rights up here, but for your rights as well. You should be praying for your fellow ‘like-minded’ FReedom-loving gun-owners in NY State instead of launching immature attacks on us.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 9:08:07 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax
Think Atlanta as opposed to the balance of your state.

It isn't that I don't understand that even in NY there are conservatives. The problem with NY is the winner take all nature of electoral politics. If you're outnumbered by even a small margin, then you have no say. And in NY conservatives are outnumbered by a large margin.

You should be praying for your fellow ‘like-minded’ FReedom-loving gun-owners in NY State instead of launching immature attacks on us.

My prayers or lack thereof won't change a single mind in NY. I know what people there are like. I had the misfortune to live both upstate and in the Bronx before escaping to a better place. I can assure you as rare as conservatives were in Tompkins county they were nearly non-existant in the Bronx. On those few occasions when I got into political discourse with liberals, you could tell that logic and facts were not important. They were true believers, and as we know "For true believers no proof is necessary and no disproof possible."

I don't launch attacks on you. I simply state the facts about the politics in the state. The facts being that conservatives have no voice there. The ONLY voice anyone hears coming out of NY is the endless rant of higher taxes, gun control, globull warming, etc. You personally may indeed be a conservative, but you have no say and no way to change the votes of statists who dominate NY politics at both the federal and state level. And as you mentioned virtually every upstate population center is a hotbed of tyrant wannabe statists/democrats. I agree you're living in an occupied state same as I am. But two things: I at least am aware of the nature of what comes out of Atlanta, And I don't try to paint a rosy picture in defiance of the facts.

At least here the occupiers are occasionally handed a defeat. Case in point the greedy NFL franchise demanded a new stadium paid for by the taxpayers. The governor (R) fell on his knees to kiss the Falcon's owner's backside and tried to ram a significant chunk of the capital expenditures onto the taxpayers. The legislature voted NO. Atlanta's black Democratic mayor then decided to put $200,000,000 on the backs of Atlanta taxpayers, and the black democrats who make up the majoity of the Atlanta city council went along with it.(most are so dumb they have to be watered twice a week - look up Hank Johnson as a typical black democrat from Atlanta) Unfortunately, too many state funds are given to Atlanta to consider this a clear victory, but at least it was a small vistory against the state/big busniness exploiatation of the taxpayer for private gain.

21 posted on 02/05/2013 9:53:05 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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