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Dems move to change federal pot laws
AdminPress ^ | Feb 4, 2013 | Salon

Posted on 02/05/2013 7:59:15 AM PST by Cheerio

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To: Cheerio
I don't see how anyone can support federal marijuana laws and call themselves a supporter of limited government.

Drug laws, especially for something as harmless and mainstream as pot, empower the government in ways few other regulations can.

I think if you saw widespread legalization, you'd see a short term increase in use that would level off, then it would dwindle down to whatever it is now. People who want to smoke it are smoking it.

The good thing about pot is that it is one of the few intoxicants that doesn't overall lead to an increase in violent or dangerous behavior, unless you want to call sitting around watching TV and eating Doritos dangerous.

121 posted on 02/05/2013 3:49:47 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Add me to the pro list. Nanny-staters can pretend that they’re conservative all they want. Bureaucratic control and police state laws governing mild intoxicants at the federal level are no more conservative than the 18th Amendment.


122 posted on 02/05/2013 3:55:25 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It is the liberal leftist democraps who are pushing this agenda.

Not really. I don't know any liberty-loving supporter of limited government who still supports the failed Drug War in it's current state.

You must hang out with a lot of GOP establishment types; they're really the only ones still hanging onto outdated big government schemes like marijuana prohibition:

The measures have little chance of passing, said Kevin Sabet, a former [Bush 43] White House drug policy adviser. Sabet recently joined former Rhode Island Rep. Patrick Kennedy and former President George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum in forming a group called Project SAM — for “smart approaches to marijuana” — to counter the growing legalization movement. Sabet noted that previous federal legalization measures have always failed.

It's more like the GOP establishment and the old money Democrats are teaming up to push back against legalization. The only Republicans who are still gung-ho anti-pot are guys like Frum who still supports bans on "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines".

Granted, legalization is supported by both sides, but for totally different reasons (leftists want the tax revenue, conservatives want to decrease FedGov police power that accompanies the Drug War).

Still, there's fewer and fewer people out there who still believe that FedGov prohibition of a relatively harmless plant and limited government are part of the same philosophy.

Pot legalization is one of those rare issues like SOPA where you're likely to have some crossover. But don't pretend like there's any sort of mystery as to where a true "limited government" supporter should stand.

123 posted on 02/05/2013 6:42:55 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: BrandtMichaels
Two people expressing what they feel through personal experience is something less than "spouting off".

The funny thing about a forum is that is solicits varied opinions, presumably in a civil format.

124 posted on 02/05/2013 7:51:43 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Beelzebubba

I fully agree with that. let the states decide.

I’m wondering if legalized will the tobacco companies be the ones to grow it?


125 posted on 02/06/2013 3:52:35 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: pfflier; Monty22002

Spouting off out of complete and utter ignorance is no excuse imho. Did you two get all your info from government studies? Do you also believe in ‘Global Warming’ b/c they say so, in spite of over 10 years of no warming?


126 posted on 02/06/2013 6:37:56 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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127 posted on 02/06/2013 6:44:46 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: Responsibility2nd; Monty22002
Wonder what Monty22 aka Monty22001 got the zots for back then. Better question: When will he get a new zot now?
128 posted on 02/06/2013 9:15:48 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I think he’s clammed up b/c he wants to at least get 1 year in this time around - est. March 24th,2012...


129 posted on 02/06/2013 9:38:43 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: Responsibility2nd
As we know - there are NO CREDIBLE conservatives who argue for relaxing drug laws either at the state or federal level.

As you know, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-CA, lifetime American Conservative Union rating 95%, endorsed the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Act (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/09/dana_rohrabacher_us_congressma.php).

130 posted on 02/06/2013 12:29:26 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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