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Dems move to change federal pot laws
AdminPress ^ | Feb 4, 2013 | Salon

Posted on 02/05/2013 7:59:15 AM PST by Cheerio

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To: Monty22002
Yep, you love democrat plans to expand the ATF.

You want unregulated pot, make your case. Effective regulation requires much less government than effective prohibition - seems like you're the one who loves a bigger DEA.

Figures.. Just so you can get high

I have no plans to get high - YOU'RE the one who said if it’s legalized you’d probably start using it.

81 posted on 02/05/2013 10:28:56 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Cheerio

A political base of stoners and libertarians... had to happen..
With an electorate of “doped” up citizens.. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?..


Could be WHY Barry Half-White was re-elected..
And Hillary is the smartest woman in the White Hut..
America generally “IS STONED”...


82 posted on 02/05/2013 10:32:34 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Darren McCarty

But you know who this discussion is about . Right? Pot laws?


83 posted on 02/05/2013 10:33:31 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: MaxMax
Pot is the perfect way to control the masses. An entire population living in a haze willing to go along to get along so that one more joint can stay legal.

Nonsense - ending Prohibition of the drug alcohol didn't lead to an entire population living in a booze haze.

No longer will hippies and the addicted need to hide. They can sit on the police station steps giggling about "sticking it to the Man" while smoking a fat one.

Really? Is it legal for boozers to sit on the police station steps knocking back a 40?

84 posted on 02/05/2013 10:34:49 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Moonman62; cuban leaf
That says it all right there. Prohibition was such a bad amendment that it was repealed.

Prohibition permitted possession and consumption. It also allowed low alcohol beer and the prescribing of alcohol as medicine. The enforcement law also included loopholes.

Are you suggesting that eliminating those exemptions and enforcement loopholes would have made Prohibition a better policy? If not, what's your point?

85 posted on 02/05/2013 10:38:57 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: nikos1121

We have 20,000,000 or more alcholics in this country...why not legalize POT and add another 10,000,000 pot heads like you see in Amsterdam and the Middle East? Legalize Cocaine too while you’re at it?


Or, we could let the people of each state decide whether your fears were sensible or not. We might even have some states try out new laws, and serve as an example for the rest of the states.

I think that’s how they said our nation is supposed to work.


86 posted on 02/05/2013 10:44:09 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: nikos1121
why not legalize POT and add another 10,000,000 pot heads

Who says we'd add any? People who want pot are getting it now - only in the process they're putting pot-war-hyperinflated profits in criminal hands.

87 posted on 02/05/2013 10:47:02 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Monty22002
Why is there any tax at all if all they want to do is legalize?

Yep, the feds outright want to be drug dealers

Does taxing alcohol or tobacco make government dealers of those drugs? I don't think pot, alcohol, or tobacco should be taxed at a higher rate than anything else - but I prefer a sales tax that I can avoid by not buying pot to an income tax for the War on Pot that I can't avoid paying.

88 posted on 02/05/2013 10:51:17 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

“Who says we’d add any? People who want pot are getting it now - only in the process they’re putting pot-war-hyperinflated profits in criminal hands.”

That’s what I dont get.

It’s like libs saying that tougher gun laws will stop mass-murderers.

Pot is illegal and those that want to smoke it are not swayed by a law. There is a whole culture that is out in the open from growing to smoking. It’s not a big secret.

My view is if it grows from the ground, then who cares. All of those other drugs made from over-the-counter meds or from chemicals are manufactured substances and ought to be regulated and should be far easier to do so seeing that meth, speed, crack, and the like need separate chemicals that can be traced and tracked, as opposed to pot that needs a seed, sun, dirt and a Dixie cup.


89 posted on 02/05/2013 10:53:52 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Monty22002
I’ve done every legal drug. Caffeine, booze, smoking, and so on. So of course if it were legal and in stores I’d have tried the other stuff.

Really? You'd use meth and heroin if they were legal? You couldn't pay me enough to mess with that stuff.

The bigger picture is that I shouldn't have to pay to protect you from your own stupidity.

90 posted on 02/05/2013 10:54:20 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: MaxMax

An entire population living in a haze


Of the current alcohol drinkers, some will add pot to their habits, some will not. I suspect most (like me) will not. Many who want to be legal, but would prefer pot to alcohol might very well reduce their alcohol consumption, and there might be a net benefit in public safety (vehicle accidents, bar fights).

Of non drinkers, some might adopt pot and some might not. I suspect that VERY few non-drinkers will start smoking pot.

But I might be wrong, so I’ll happily leave it to the voters of each state to decide for themselves.


91 posted on 02/05/2013 10:54:53 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: MaxMax

Yep, we’ll have the modern-day versions of Opium dens sprouting up all over the place.


92 posted on 02/05/2013 10:56:45 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: VanDeKoik
Pot is illegal and those that want to smoke it are not swayed by a law. [...] My view is if it grows from the ground, then who cares. All of those other drugs made from over-the-counter meds or from chemicals are manufactured substances and ought to be regulated

Regulated, or prohibited? Those that want to use manufactured drugs are also not swayed by a law.

93 posted on 02/05/2013 10:57:14 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Beelzebubba
Let the states decide.

Dropped in looking for this; leaving satisfied.

94 posted on 02/05/2013 10:58:30 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Cheerio

Indeed a base of felons and stoners no wonder they vote the way they do.


95 posted on 02/05/2013 10:58:32 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Cheerio

Keep the populace sedated as we sale down the crapper.


96 posted on 02/05/2013 10:58:56 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: KSCITYBOY
Keep the populace sedated as we sale [sic] down the crapper.

Has the legality of the drug alcohol done that? If not, why would the legality of pot?

97 posted on 02/05/2013 11:00:37 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: BrandtMichaels

Huh??


98 posted on 02/05/2013 11:01:55 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Michael Barnes

Incidentally, if anyone thinks legal pot makes voters stay home, remember that the blue states will be the leaders in legalization, and the liberal voters will be the most enthusiastic smokers.


99 posted on 02/05/2013 11:03:30 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

“Regulated, or prohibited? Those that want to use manufactured drugs are also not swayed by a law”

No they are not. No law stops everything. Prohibiting those ingredients arent possible because they have legal applications. But the stuff needed to make Meth and these other manufactured illegal drugs cant just be bought from the local grocery or garden center and mixed together. 99% of the time the stuff in it is made by only a few companies, and has to be driven over state lines. Much easier a target for the DEA to have their “war” on.


100 posted on 02/05/2013 11:03:44 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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