[American in Israel]

If making a law could solve a problem, we would have no problems by now. This whole foolish framework ignores the reality of sin. People are sinners. People break laws.

If adding laws against substance abuse could solve violence problems, why not just make violence illegal?

You cannot replace a rightous God and His will with a book of laws anymore than you can solve problems involving time with three D math. Apples and Oranges.

God is about Will, not Law. But we do not understand Will, so he made Law’s from his Will. Take God out of the equation of life, and you end up with a totally unsolvable problem. Try to live in freedom without His Law, and you end up enslaved in millions of mans laws.

That is why, In God we Trust worked so well. Because there is a God to enforce it.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

One judge I knew of had an interesting solution for domestic violence.

Restraining orders were issued against mostly males, and he was annoyed with violations of those orders resulting in abused women appearing before him repeatedly. So his solution was a bench order, ordering the woman to be armed.

And if she could not afford a gun and bullets, he provided them for her out of his own pocket.

No shootings resulted, but the number of women appearing before him dropped to zero.

The results were impressive enough so that the police, also sick of repeat domestic violence, chipped in to help the judge provide women with guns and bullets.

This worked very well, but the judge’s successor did not continue the idea.

[saleman]

“Our legislation creates a “Family Intervention Order”. If your spouse is a substance abuser, a restraining order gives control of the family to you. The substance abuser has only two choices: seek recovery or “lose it all”. Nothing is more likely to reliably result in recovery than this. The Family Intervention Order is ideal because it is self-balancing within families and does not give the nanny-state power to interfere in families.”

Trying to not knee jerk my reaction to this “family intervention order” and the double speak accompanying it. (wait 10 seconds..o.k 2 minutes) So, you "create" legislation. By creating legislation then that means you are keeping the nanny state out? I don't know. I got a feeling this was sponsored, written probably, by a feminazi

[Washi]

Our legislation creates a “Family Intervention Order”. If your spouse is a substance abuser, a restraining order gives control of the family to you. The substance abuser has only two choices: seek recovery or “lose it all”. Nothing is more likely to reliably result in recovery than this. The Family Intervention Order is ideal because it is self-balancing within families and does not give the nanny-state power to interfere in families.

Oh, there's no way this would EVER be abused by a vindictive spouse.

As for the claim that this "does not give the nanny-state power to interfere in families"...who enforces this? What happens if the reporting spouse changes his/her mind, does the nanny-state back off? Do they prosecute the reporting spouse for false reporting?

There is a whole lot that can go wrong with this.

[ridesthemiles]

Add this:

ALL persons receiving ANY KIND of public assistance will have to take random drug tests regularly and MUST pass them clean every time.

Otherwise, all assistance will be instantly stopped and not restarted.

Food stamps—Medicaid—Section 8 housing—free school lunches—welfare payments—free medical—free legal—free bus passes.....etc.