Posted on 02/11/2013 10:53:08 PM PST by Moseley
Rove is Not the question nor the answer.. BUT....
he may be one of the problems..
All....Does anybody remember what the Democrats did at their convention ??? First they eliminated any mention of the word GOD...and when they thought twice about doing that they reintroduced the resolution what happened ? They booed God....That resolution was rammed through just like the Affordable Health Care Act ...
Was that fact used in any of the material Roves RINOS spewed forth during the 2012 Romney or US senate races his group of GOPES (Government Ofthe People Elite Snobs) used on their hit list ? I like using that abbreviation because it rhymes with dopes.
Noooo ! They could have used that episode to point out how far to the left the democrat party has hyphenated into; Demo-Coms ...Instead well we dont like Aikin. Well it could have been poonted out at least Aikin believes in something like the ten commandments. Including Thou shalt not steal and doesnt believe that getting elected office doesnt give you a license to do that. Which his opponent seems to have done rather well since being in office. The same thing with Mourdock. That was never heard from any of the GOPES or Rove’s RINOS.
First of all guys like Rove and others ignored the mechanics of basic campaigning. They allowed the Mainline Socialist Media drive the issues particularly using polling and are still doing so. They learned nothing from their disasters.I also find it inexcuseable for Rove to allow his boss GWB get continuosly trashed without responding.
Right now GOPES are falling into the same trap. Limbaugh and Levin, God bless them ...realize that what Limbaugh calls the LIVs (low intelligence voters) actually believe that Obama is offering the proverbial olive branch to Republicans when actually he is proceeding on his path to complete socialism. AND THEY CANT CALL HIM A LIAR .
This administration came up with a policy on energy which had driven up the cost on everything. It was on the tongue of every black, white. yellow,and brown skined person living in the US....IT WENT UNTOUCHED in the 2012 campaign....WORSE YET IT IS STILL GOING UNCHALLANGED
Now the GOPES are buying into the demographic argument offered by the MSM. Here you have an issue staring at them straight in the face affecting every man,woman,and child of every skin color and you cant bring it up and they talk about demographics being pushed by the socialist media .
They should be decrying the philosphy of demographics by stating theyre Americans first not Afro-Americans. not Hispanic-Americans and not-Asian-Americans, or White-Americans. The counter charge should be these are socialist tactics neing pushed by the hypenated Demo-coms. Democrats in socialist/fascist clothing. Let alone not mention the booing of God’s name during their convention then belittle those Republicans who express a religious conviction even to the point of suggesting that those that do shouldn’t run for political office.
Rove and his RINOS are wrong for the Republicans
Mayballene! Why Can’t you be True!!
Lipstick and pigs...
Colorfool
Something to vote for.......people like that.
I don’t think there is anything that could boost this country more than energy independance.
In 1994 the Republicans had the “contract”.
You know where I am headed here?
We are not in a hopeless position.
Bloated Karl is a rat operative
Karl Rove is the solution to the Republican problem. If he would shut his stupid mouth and disappear into the dust bin of history, problem solved. Oh and Karl take all your RINO friends with you.
“Karl Rove is the solution to the Republican problem. If he would shut his stupid mouth and disappear into the dust bin of history, problem solved. Oh and Karl take all your RINO friends with you.”
Well, You’re correct in that Rove is not a hard core conservative. It appears to me that he’s a pragmatic Republican. In other words, he’s willing to take the Republican with the best chance of winning over allowing a Democrat have the seat. Two examples, Akin and O’Donnell, the two did irreparable damage to themselves by their stupid statements. And then, especially, Akin, when this became obvious refused to step aside in favor of someone who had a chance. So, Rove ain’t the biggest problem we Conservatives face. It’s the stupid candidate syndrome existing amongst our ranks that’s killing us.
“Judd is considering using her celebrity to run as a Democrat challenger to Mitch McConnell.”
I think I would rather have Ashley Judd over McConnell at this point!
Rove is everything wrong with the GOP and Fox.
He hasn’t one single redeeming feature.
Not one. Go away Rove.
Karl Rove should aim his artillery out there at liberals, not point his guns inside the fort.
Why? Rove’s enemies are not the liberals but the conservatives taking temporary refuge inside the GOP fort. It’s time to leave.
Karl Rove may suffer from a couple of common problems. First, he seems focused on demographic data that describes WHO voted for whom but not WHY they voted. The latter type of data is more difficult to obtain but it is much more valuable for creating strategy. You can get absorbed in data even though that data is not especially useful.
The second problem is failing to notice that the opposition party runs candidates that are absolutely nuts and it doesn’t seem to slow those candidates one bit. Rove’s concern that some candidates need to be eliminated before the general election overlooks the possibility that the criteria he is applying to determine if a candidate is electable may not be important factors in their electability.
A third problem Rove may have is confusing the power of donations with election success. Rove’s party had lots of money in the 2012 campaign and did not spend it as effectively as they could. In the end, you need votes. A few big donors may not translate into sufficient votes. It would be nice to have millions of little donors—more voters. Getting out the vote is important. Getting donations has to be linked to getting votes.
The result is that Rove is attacking conservatives and losing elections. I suggest that running a candidate that doesn’t match your demographic trend predictions may result in continuing losses.
I have been attacked twice on other threads for suggesting that the focus on electability may be misidentifying the factors or erring in weighting the factors that influence electability. It seems conservatives, laudably, focus on the intelligence and wisdom of candidates’ statements with specific reference to Akin and O’Donnell. With complete respect and appreciation for that point of view, I also suggest that such statements would have no effect on a Dem candidate. Dem’s routinely run and vote for goofballs, idiots, immoral creeps, and people who consciously intend to violate their oaths of office. It doesn’t bother them one bit. Republicans destroy every candidate that doesn’t speak like a Yale grad. Most voters are “low information”. The media is going to paint R candidates as idiots even if they ARE Yale grads. I suggest that a better information sharing system and, for the future, better educational efforts are essential parts of the success equation.
Pointing the attacks on conservatives raises the question, “How will Rove make up for the lost conservative votes?” Does he think his strategy will gather Dem voters? I would like to see how he thinks that will work.
Some thoughtful comments for sure.
I’ll respond to your last comment first; you already know the answer, he’s a Dem and has the main stream media providing cover for him (him being Obama).
About Bush, most of what you say has an element of truth in them. However, history will eventually show that Bush, in spite of his Texas drawl, is/was a pretty smart guy. And, by the way, failing numerous times before succeeding is not a sin. Keeping on trying however is an attribute, especially when trying in the west Texas oil patch.
Concerning Akin and O’donald specifically; there are many independents and fiscal conservatives who are willing to turn a blind eye to some of conservative care abouts such as abortion and 2nd amendment issues and pull the lever for the Republican ticket. However, Akin’s comments were so over the top ridiculous that these people couldn’t get them and thereby didn’t/wouldn’t vote for him.
Bush’s mistakes were misspronouncements or just misspeaks. Akin said a stupid thing and then doubled down on it. There is a huge difference.
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