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Fire-disabled cruise ship on its way to Mobile
CruiseCritic.com ^ | 02/12/2013

Posted on 02/12/2013 8:26:15 AM PST by cll

(10:15 a.m. EST) – Carnival Triumph is on the move again, under the power of two tugboats, and is expected to arrive in Mobile on Thursday afternoon, according to a new update from Carnival Cruise Lines. All passengers will then be flown to Houston.

Limited onboard systems remain functional, though the sewage system did go down again last night for a short period. Technicians were able to gets "some of them [toilets] back on line this morning," Carnival spokesman Vance Gulliksen said. Passengers "are doing well under the circumstances," and the ship's entertainment staff has planned various activities to try and keep passengers entertained.

After being confined to open decks and public spaces on Sunday, the 3,143 passengers on the now-altered four-night Caribbean cruise from Galveston, have been allowed return to their cabins, said Gulliksen.

Additionally, there is running water in the cabins, albeit cold water. Power has been restored to a limited number of elevators, as well as to part of the Lido dining to provide for hot coffee and limited hot food service.

Meals and refreshments are being provided and the grille in the poolside restaurant was open from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. last night and opened again at 7 a.m. this morning.

Emergency backup generators continue to power the ship's bridge and communication systems.

A fire left the ship adrift in the Gulf of Mexico with no power on Sunday, February 10. There were no injuries from the fire, which the line says was contained by the ship's automatic extinguishing system.

Carnival had originally announced Triumph would be towed to Progreso, Mexico but switched to Mobile after the ship drifted about 90 miles north due to strong currents, which put it nearly equidistant to Mobile as to Progreso. "Given the strength of the currents, it is preferable to head north to Mobile, rather than attempt to tow against them," a Carnival statement explained. "Mobile also provides simpler re-entry [than Mexico], particularly for the 900 passengers traveling without passports," the line added.

The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Vigorous has been on the scene since 12:45 a.m. EST Monday.

A timeline for repairs to Triumph will be announced once the ship is in port and has undergone inspection, according to the line. Damaged suffered by Carnival Splendor from an engine room fire in 2010 kept the ship out of service for more than three months.

Cruise Critic member krogers2063 reports, "I just went on Carnival's Web site and did a mock booking and the next sailing that comes up for the Triumph is March 21st. That is my sailing. I pray it will be fixed by then."

This latest event comes just weeks after an issue with Triumph's propulsion system, which caused minor delays to two cruises. Gulliksen said Carnival has checked into whether the propulsion problem was related to the engine fire, but was told the cause of the fire is not yet known.

"A complete investigation will take place with the appropriate regulatory bodies, outside experts and other independent authorities as appropriate," he said.


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1 posted on 02/12/2013 8:26:19 AM PST by cll
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To: cll

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=5194

Here’s a sampling of what Cruise Critic members have heard from their friends and family on Carnival Triumph:

Clinty76 (February 10, 6:56 p.m.) – Here is the absolute most current update directly from my wife aboard the ship. “We are about to get supplies from another cruise ship and apparently the tug boats should be here tomorrow around noon. Who knows how long it will take to get back to Galveston. We have no power AT ALL, which means we can’t use the toilets, wash our hands or take a shower.”

jgomila198101 (February 10, 7:07 p.m.) – My sis just called. They have plenty of food; they are all fine but doesn’t look like they will be back until Wednesday night. Said they are still having fun.

Morehouse14 (February 11, 8:47 a.m.) – I know four people on this cruise, one of which is my wife. I have been in contact with her and the others. The cruise line says they are running on emergency generators… there are no lights or running water on the ship. Cabins have no power. They have to use bags and/or the shower to go to the bathroom. It is hot with no air moving below deck. They want everyone to stay in the public or open areas of the ship.

Morehouse14 (February 11, 1:28 p.m.) – Just received a text message from my wife. They are being served hamburgers and salad from another ship that is alongside. Lines are taking 2 plus hours to get through to get food and drink.

okiecruzer (February 11, 1:36 p.m.) – Just got word from my mom who is on Triumph. She said they would be back to Galveston Thursday or Friday.

Dbogusch (February 11, 2:02 p.m.) – Just found out a coworker is on that ship. She texted her boss this afternoon. She said there are very long lines for food and bathrooms. Some rooms running out of toilet paper. She said the ship is hot and people are cranky. She expects to be home Thursday or Friday.

Wmiller86 (February 11, 2:11 p.m.) – My wife and 3 of her girlfriends are on the Triumph… My wife was able to call me Sunday night for a few minutes while Elation was alongside. My wife told me that it was pretty scary during the fire evacuation… She said that they were allowed back down into the cabins after awhile, but it is so hot that you cannot sleep down there. So they had set up a makeshift tent over deck loungers to sleep in. At the time I spoke to here, there was no toilets. They were using little red bags. And no running water, no lights, except emergency lighting.

She said it was already pretty miserable. No hot food and no alcohol being served. There was still ice being served in soft drinks. None of the shops were open.

okiecruzer (February 11, 2:22 p.m.) – They [parents] said there is no power still, no toilets… , no meat. They slept on the deck last night (no tent, just open air) and will probably do so for the next two nights. They said they are doing this by choice – they booked an inner room without a window. They said there is no coffee or juice, only water. My dad said they were serving “hamburgers.” He had one made just of cheese slices and another with only coleslaw, no meat on either. All alcohol service has been cut off.

Dbogusch (February 11, 2:36 p.m.) – Another update from coworker. People are slowly being let into their cabins but its stifling hot below decks. The “hamburgers” being served are meatless. Very limited hot food. Only water to drink.

LynnA (February 11, 4:28 p.m.) – We just got a text from daughter-in-law. She said she was miserable but no worries.

Wmiller86 (February 11, 10:14 p.m.) – I just rec’d a text from my wife. - NO POTTIES ARE WORKING! That was all it said.

NTFF (February 12, 1:47 a.m.) – My wife is aboard for her very first cruise. She and her best friend have a cabin just forward of the centerline of the ship. She has reported to me through texts, and 2 phone calls she managed to get out while the other ships were moving supplies aboard. She tells me she has not heard of or seen any functioning restrooms/etc. She said she not not seen anyone fighting for food, but she had seen that people waiting in very long lines were pileing up the food and (hoarding) taking it to their cabins as if there would be no more. She said the crew was assuring all that there was plenty of food, but many pax were ignoring this advice. At 16:29 CST she said that 1 of the tug boats was in site. And they they had been advised that they may not be into port until friday.


2 posted on 02/12/2013 8:27:58 AM PST by cll (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me)
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To: NautiNurse

Interest ping.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 8:28:53 AM PST by cll (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me)
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To: cll
My wife and I have been on numerous cruises with Royal Caribbean....only one with Carnival. While the Carnival cruise was alright the comparison with Royal Caribbean was distinct! It's called competence and professionalism....hard to beat!!
4 posted on 02/12/2013 8:36:14 AM PST by ontap
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To: cll

Remind me again why I should take a “cruise” ship...


5 posted on 02/12/2013 8:36:49 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: cll
Any one with a 35’ craft could pick up a nice hunk of change by ferrying people from that cruise ship.
6 posted on 02/12/2013 8:38:41 AM PST by TYVets
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To: cll

Just tried to access the Carnival Triumph info page @ carnival.com..... and it’s broke. This ship must be cursed! lol


7 posted on 02/12/2013 8:39:40 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: cll

These ships have significant fire safety problems. The fuel systems on these large diesels are frequent leakers. They have double wall fuel lines and covers over hot components, but the fuel can still ignite. The real problem is that all the engines and generators are in one main engine room. So a fire in that room takes down all the propulsion power and leaves the ship with only minimum emergency electrical power.
They should be required to have two independent engine rooms and control stations. The electric propulsion engines should be in separate rooms that can be run by either engine room.
If this type of fire happens in a more dangerous place..thousands could be lost.


8 posted on 02/12/2013 8:40:06 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: cll

Now they know what it’s like to be in the Navy...


9 posted on 02/12/2013 8:42:31 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: cll

The S.S. Minnow was better prepared & equipped for emergencies than Carnival. Too bad the Skipper & Gilligan are no longer around to help them out!


10 posted on 02/12/2013 8:45:33 AM PST by Smittie
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

IMHO the media treats this a lot like plane crashes. They are rare but it’s the only thing they report on(other than people getting sick) because it’s bad news. The cruise industry carrys millions of passengers a year without incident but the media would never report that of course.

The wife and I have been on 6 or 7 over the years without any problems at all and have enjoyed every one.

Just my 2 cent.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 8:47:37 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: cll

I wouldn’t go on a cruise, even if someone paid me $1 mil.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 8:47:49 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Oldexpat

I wondered about this from an engineering standpoint: Who puts all of their points-of-failure in a single room on a machine this large and complex?

That a fire, evidently not large enough to seriously damage the ship, would destroy all capability of power generation, including plumbing, propulsion and HVAC, is simply bad design. Wretched design.


13 posted on 02/12/2013 8:50:24 AM PST by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: cll

What ? No Legionnaire’s Disease?


14 posted on 02/12/2013 8:56:35 AM PST by Makana (Today's solution is tomorrow's problem.)
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To: Oldexpat
They should be required to have two independent engine rooms and control stations. The electric propulsion engines should be in separate rooms that can be run by either engine room.

I agree. That sounds like a very typical setup in any comparably-sized Navy ship. Having redundancy is essential to prevent such complete failures. Just imagine if this ship were DIW in the North Atlantic.

And for those who say it might be too expensive, I ask you, what will the cost be for Carnival to be towed, reimburse passengers, pay other expenses and fees, and re-build their name?

15 posted on 02/12/2013 8:56:35 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Abigail Adams
I wouldn’t go on a cruise, even if someone paid me $1 mil.

Why not? The great majority of them are very enjoyable experiences.

16 posted on 02/12/2013 8:59:20 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: V_TWIN; Eric in the Ozarks

I agree and I must admit I am a fan of cruising, having done so many times to include transatlantic crossings. But I believe that Carnival Corporation should take a long hard look at their operations. There is a company-wide safety issue here. This ship already had serious problems on the cruises immediately preceding this one. Thay had another Carnival ship adrift under similar circumstances not too long ago. And then there’s the Costa Concordia disaster (Costa being one of Carnival’s brands). Like another poster mentioned, there are other cruise lines that seem more competent or at least haven’t had repeated incidents over a short period of time. I myself prefer Royal Caribbean.


17 posted on 02/12/2013 8:59:20 AM PST by cll (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me)
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To: cll

This would have made an interesting undercover boss.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 9:03:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: BrewingFrog
Who puts all of their points-of-failure in a single room on a machine this large and complex?

Since many of these ships are of Italian design and manufacture, I'd say the designers must be former FIAT (Fix It Again Tony) engineers.

19 posted on 02/12/2013 9:04:54 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: cll

I agree that safety needs to be addressed. Having said that, most people don’t realize when you board a cruise ship you ARE NOT in the U.S. any more, most if not all of the crew are from all over the world and some don’t even speak english. That is a very important thing to understand before booking.

Carnival is indeed one brand of several that are owned by P&O line. Another of which is Princess.


20 posted on 02/12/2013 9:07:00 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: bmwcyle

All alcohol service has been cut off.


Yikes


21 posted on 02/12/2013 9:09:31 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: cll

It is a tough call. Stab knitting needles in your eyes or take a Carnival cruise.

I suggest the knitting needles.


22 posted on 02/12/2013 9:11:24 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: cll

I took six 2 week “cruises” from Seattle to Yokohama and back, 1951-1961. The ships were old, gray and slow but they got us where we wanted to go.


23 posted on 02/12/2013 9:12:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: freedomlover

The booze will flow when they arrive in they are smart.


24 posted on 02/12/2013 9:12:31 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: cll

Unlike FR Cc is funded by cruise lines,try posting a negative review and see what happens.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 9:16:41 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: V_TWIN

>>Carnival is indeed one brand of several that are owned by P&O line. Another of which is Princess.<<

Carnival is the Costco of cruising. They generally deliver a consistent but cheap product. Not bad and it gives many people a chance to do something they would not normally get to do.

But the food is dormitory quality (the days of all you can eat steak and lobster are long gone), booze is expensive, little brats run all over the ship 24X7, etc.


26 posted on 02/12/2013 9:20:43 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: Smittie

“Too bad the Skipper & Gilligan are no longer around to help them out!”


The Professor would have been a big help - he would have found a way to convert solar power into electricity to make ice, flush the toilets, and cook the food.

Fixing the boat, not so much.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 9:21:47 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: cll

>> I know four people on this cruise, one of which is my wife.<<

The other is my girlfriend (lol) ;)


28 posted on 02/12/2013 9:23:07 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: All

“The “hamburgers” being served are meatless”

Thats not a hamburger then, is it ?


29 posted on 02/12/2013 9:23:18 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: freedumb2003
Ive been on 2 or 3 carnival and your observations are in my estimation accurate. I live in FL. carnival is known here as a “party” ship. We prefer Princess, a little slower pace and a little more peaceful (guess I’m getting old). lol Not as many kids. The whole experience is IMHO a cut above carnival.

We usually take our own adult beverages..........there are ways to get around expensive drink prices, it just takes a little ingenuity!

30 posted on 02/12/2013 9:27:25 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: freedumb2003

“I know four people on this cruise, one of which is my wife. The other is my girlfriend

Your in the clear unless they meet..........then it’s time for YOU to take a cruise!


31 posted on 02/12/2013 9:30:05 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: ontap
Just got off a Cruise on the Royal Caribbean ‘Vision of the Seas’ to the Eastern Caribbean. Of the 10 cruises I have been on it was the worst! Lousy cabin(not what I ordered), Lousy service, lousy food. Weather was great, and ports of call good. 2nd one with RC. I like Norwegian, Azamora much better
32 posted on 02/12/2013 9:31:29 AM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: V_TWIN
>i>Your in the clear unless they meet..........then it’s time for YOU to take a cruise!

Arms, don't fail me now!

33 posted on 02/12/2013 9:38:04 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: stubernx98

Can only relate my experiences and they have all been good!!!


34 posted on 02/12/2013 9:38:29 AM PST by ontap
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To: al baby

35 posted on 02/12/2013 9:38:36 AM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: stubernx98

>>Just got off a Cruise on the Royal Caribbean ‘Vision of the Seas’ to the Eastern Caribbean. Of the 10 cruises I have been on it was the worst! <<

How is Celebrity? As I have suggested upthread, I won’t do Carnival (or Disney)


36 posted on 02/12/2013 9:40:49 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: V_TWIN; freedumb2003

Two Frenchmen are sitting at a cafe, looking out across the plaza at two figures hurrying toward them.

Frenchman 1: (Very agitated) “Oh no - here comes my wife and my girlfriend!

Frenchman 2: (Even more agitated) “Sacrebleu - me too!!”


37 posted on 02/12/2013 9:43:14 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: freedumb2003

Celebrity is owned by Royal carribean!!


38 posted on 02/12/2013 9:45:18 AM PST by ontap
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To: freedumb2003

We did two weeks on the
Century round trip to Hawaii out of San Diego we loved it missed Maui we had to rescue 3 men from a dismasted 45 foot sailboat 700 miles out of Hilo


39 posted on 02/12/2013 9:53:31 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: ontap

>>Celebrity is owned by Royal carribean!!<<

From what I can tell, other than Cunard, all the cruise lines are owned by Carnival or RC :(


40 posted on 02/12/2013 9:53:43 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: freedumb2003

Here is a you tube of the rescue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbAw3LJXaAU


41 posted on 02/12/2013 9:55:40 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: cll

Scary how far the Triumph drifted. One day it was off the Yucatan Peninsula, with plans to tow into Progreso, Mexico. Next day, it was way north in the GOM, with plans to tow into Mobile.


42 posted on 02/12/2013 10:02:18 AM PST by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: cll

Ive been on both Carnival and Disney

about 17 years ago we were on a Carnival cruise and one of the propellor on the ship stopped working and something else went wrong and we limped into San Juan about 10 am one day 16 hours late...

We did get to spend the day in San Juan instead of arriving 6pm in the evening the day before (as they did back then)

they got the problem fixed and we were on our way a day late...although we went to St Thomas we didnt have time to go to St Maartin

Instead they stopped at Nassau Bahamas on the way beck (What would have been our “Day at sea”)

Im not that fond of the Bahamas and I would have rather we limped on into St Maartin

But during the time we were limping etc the passengers rioted...

We were not able to contact anyone in the US and nobody knew the truth back here...

We held a protest in one of the dining rooms and yelled “Norma Rae” because

1 We werent being told what was the problem until the next day

2 We were stopped from calling home (or the media) by the ships officers cutting of the communication eyetems and we couldnt use ship to shore telephones..(nobody had cell phones back then)

LOL

Well we had to aliviate the frustration...

One thing they did do was give us free booze for the rest of the cruise ...

We were given the option of being flown back toi the US fromn San Juan and many left the ship there...

Later wer werte told that qwas the only compensation Carnival had to give us...

They did finally give us 25% off another cruise within a year but I think they should have given us a free cruise...

Oh well

I think several sued but I didnt..


43 posted on 02/12/2013 10:08:03 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: stubernx98

We’ve been on one cruise and it was with Norwegian last year (Southern Carribean). It was amazing! Everything was great...room, food, service, ports, etc.

I would not go on a Carnival cruise. Ever.


44 posted on 02/12/2013 10:08:31 AM PST by txmissy
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To: cll
Breakdowns, Illnesses, Missing Persons...

No Thanks.

45 posted on 02/12/2013 10:19:22 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: cll

To me its like being trapped in a NY burough with no way out.


46 posted on 02/12/2013 10:55:02 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: V_TWIN
We usually take our own adult beverages..........there are ways to get around expensive drink prices, it just takes a little ingenuity!

Vodka in water and rum in Arizona Ice Tea bottles. Also took Burgundy wine aboard in Coke bottles.

47 posted on 02/12/2013 11:26:20 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

Thats kinda what we do. large plastic flasks in our checked luggage have never been questioned.


48 posted on 02/12/2013 11:28:52 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: cll

900 people traveling with out passports—I don’t believe that for a minute.
We’ve been on 7 great cruises. Two words for you—Holland America!!


49 posted on 02/12/2013 11:42:53 AM PST by taillightchaser (I'm going to become a criminal so I can keep my guns.)
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To: Lou L

Enjoyable...maybe if a person likes being in what is like a huge floating shopping mall/restaurant/hotel/casino, with thousands of other people, surrounded by water, LOL! I’d prefer a tent in the woods, alone. :-)


50 posted on 02/12/2013 12:04:23 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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