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Leach to propose bill legalizing marijuana
The Delaware County [PA] Daily Times ^ | February 11, 2013 | DANIELLE LYNCH

Posted on 02/12/2013 10:54:09 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies

State Sen. Daylin, D-17, of Upper Merion, discussed why he believes it would be beneficial to legalize marijuana during a news conference in Harrisburg Monday afternoon.

Leach said his bill would legalize marijuana for all purposes — both medicinal and recreational.

Leach said people would have to be 21 years old to use marijuana. In addition, he said it would continue to be illegal to drive a vehicle while under the influence of marijuana. People would not be allowed to smoke marijuana in restaurants.

Leach said people would be able to purchase marijuana in state stores. He said people would be allowed to grow up to six marijuana plants with three flowering at one time. He said people would be allowed to transfer — not sell — up to an ounce of marijuana.

“Pot may cause harm, but the harm is far less than that of alcohol,” said Dr. David Nathan, a clinical associate professor at Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.

Nathan called on legislators to legalize marijuana, regulate it and tax it.

Leach said his bill does not specify the tax rate, which would be determined at a later date. He said the proceeds would go toward the state’s general fund and legislators and the governor could decide where to direct the funds.

Neill Franklin, executive director of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, also discussed benefits of marijuana legalization. He said young people are currently recruited to sell marijuana and this bill would move it into a regulated and controlled marketplace.

“Our neighborhood gangs survive off the proceeds of marijuana,” he said.

Leach argued that his bill would not only make the streets of Pennsylvania safer, but would also save the state millions of dollars a year. He cited the Office of National Drug Control Policy, which estimated 24,685 marijuana arrests were made in Pennsylvania in 2006 at a cost of $325.36 million to taxpayers.

In addition to bringing in tax revenue, marijuana legalization would provide a legal treatment alternative for people who are suffering from terminal illness, according to Leach. He said he has plans to introduce the bill today.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cannabis; drugs; drugwar; marijuana; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd

1 posted on 02/12/2013 10:54:17 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Something else to TAX.


2 posted on 02/12/2013 10:57:00 AM PST by yobid (Catastrophic failure is the only solution)
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To: yobid
Better an avoidable sales tax than unavoidable income taxes to pay for enforcing marijuana prohibition.
3 posted on 02/12/2013 10:59:24 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Pothead politicians. That’s all we need.


4 posted on 02/12/2013 11:01:26 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Pothead politicians. That’s all we need.

You don't think we have those now?

Are they any worse than boozer politicians?

And where does Leach say he plans to smoke it?

5 posted on 02/12/2013 11:11:24 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

"Whoa! That's totally awesome, dude! We're going to become a nation of stoners! Most Excellent!"

6 posted on 02/12/2013 11:13:14 AM PST by Obadiah (We must commit to remove every Senate Blue-dog Democrat from office in 2014!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Pennsylvania’s beer laws are so screwed up I can only imagine what they would do with marijuana.


7 posted on 02/12/2013 11:13:53 AM PST by gdani
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To: Obadiah
We're going to become a nation of stoners!

When we legalized the mind-altering drug alcohol, did we become a nation of boozers?

8 posted on 02/12/2013 11:14:19 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Pothead politicians. That’s all we need.
You don’t think we have those now
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

The only solace one gets out of this political mess is the belief that these Clowns (sorry Clowns) ARE definitely high and/or drunk.

It seems hard to fathom that, collectively, this current (and recent) breed of pols is acting rationally, without the aid of mind altering chemicals etc...


9 posted on 02/12/2013 11:19:19 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

That would make it the DELMarvelous peninsula...


10 posted on 02/12/2013 11:24:32 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: yobid

How else do govts generate revenue?


11 posted on 02/12/2013 11:25:24 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: gdani
Pennsylvania’s beer laws are so screwed up

Can't be as screwed up as the War on Marijuana.

12 posted on 02/12/2013 11:29:58 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Losers will smoke pot no matter what we do.

Might as well starve the gangs and make some tax money off it.

Finally, a tax I won’t have to pay.


13 posted on 02/12/2013 11:40:36 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: yobid
Comical. The guy's premise is that it is prohibitively expensive to enforce existing drug laws.. so he proposes a new law that identifies a series of new laws associated with it - 6 that he spells out in the article; 3 of which are utterly unenforceable (age restrictions, transfer rules, flowering plants/total plant count). Oh, and then there's the network of stores that the state will have to build or lease, and the inventory to outfit them.

Time to get the popcorn.

14 posted on 02/12/2013 12:14:53 PM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: gdani
Pennsylvania’s beer laws are so screwed up I can only imagine what they would do with marijuana.

Five joints or fewer are deemed to be "medicine" and hence are exempt from the sales tax. Six or more are deemed to be for resale and thus sales tax would apply. Sales tax applies to the hemp, unless you tell the cashier that you are going to use it to make clothing, in which case it is exempt. Joints may only be sold on Sundays between the hours of 12 and 5PM, except in establishments where more than 51% of the gross sales can be shown to be in the form of food.


15 posted on 02/12/2013 12:15:22 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Would they do less? I’ll take some heroin comatose politicians.


16 posted on 02/12/2013 12:20:53 PM PST by Jimmah
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To: alancarp
The guy's premise is that it is prohibitively expensive to enforce existing drug laws.. so he proposes a new law that identifies a series of new laws associated with it - 6 that he spells out in the article; 3 of which are utterly unenforceable (age restrictions,

Age restrictions on the legal mind-altering drug alcohol have not proved "utterly unenforceable" - in fact, young people report that they can get marijuana more easily than beer or cigarettes. And I've seen no evidence that enforcing the regulations on alcohol is expensive.

17 posted on 02/12/2013 12:25:05 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

If you can have plants growing in your own home, then yes: age restrictions on use are most assuredly unenforceable.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 12:41:29 PM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp
Home brewing and distilling are legal; would you say age restrictions on alcohol use are therefore most assuredly unenforceable?
19 posted on 02/12/2013 12:51:24 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Are Drug Warriors about to eat another one, as they did in CO and WA?

/schadenfreude

20 posted on 02/12/2013 12:54:12 PM PST by Ken H
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; All

He’s talking on WHP 580 Harrisburg right now if anybody’s interested.


21 posted on 02/12/2013 12:56:13 PM PST by RedwM
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To: Ken H
Are Drug Warriors about to eat another one, as they did in CO and WA?

I missed it - in what way(s) did they do that?

22 posted on 02/12/2013 1:01:53 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: alancarp
Oh, and then there's the network of stores that the state will have to build or lease, and the inventory to outfit them.

Luckily for us, we already have a network of state stores.

23 posted on 02/12/2013 1:11:35 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Posting more democrat agenda news I see. State Sen. Daylin, D-17.. You sure love the left.


24 posted on 02/12/2013 1:24:04 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

‘eat another one’ = having to choke something unpleasant down, like crow.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 1:34:15 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Monty22002
Posting more democrat agenda news I see. State Sen. Daylin, D-17.. You sure love the left.

As do you, since you posted, "Obama [D] administration embraces major new cut in nuclear weapons".

26 posted on 02/12/2013 1:46:09 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Ken H
D'oh! I had a dyslexic moment and read that as "eat one another." :-(
27 posted on 02/12/2013 1:47:33 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Difference is I was mocking it and bashing it. You’re all out supporting the democrat agenda.


28 posted on 02/12/2013 2:11:44 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002
Now you're moving the goalposts, from "posting" to "supporting."

By your latest logic, the FReeper who approvingly posted "Panetta [D] warns of degraded military readiness from spending cuts" is likewise supporting the Democrat agenda. I trust you'll do the principled thing and tell him so.

29 posted on 02/12/2013 2:37:11 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Monty22002
Anti-prohibitionism isn't leftist. It's common sense.

At least the prohibitionists of the Progressive Era had the decency to pass a Constitutional Amendment. Anti-pot folks just ignore the Constitution.

30 posted on 02/12/2013 3:37:57 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Yes, I would. The whole point is that these guys who want to legalize drugs complain that the existing laws can’t be enforced... yet the replacement situation they offer isn’t any better. It’s a poor argument for what they really want: more control/more revenue.


31 posted on 02/12/2013 8:57:38 PM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: SoothingDave

True enough - I was figuring on a separate set of them (the stores I’ve seen in operation on news reports in other states seem to be big enough that they wouldn’t have room for alcohol and marijuana in the same space).

Anyway, as I say - the proposal is intended to sounds nice and common sense... but in reality it’s yet another attempt at control and another taxation source.


32 posted on 02/12/2013 9:01:21 PM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp

Do you support PA’s authority under the Tenth Amendment to regulate intrastate marijuana as it sees fit?


33 posted on 02/13/2013 4:55:52 AM PST by Ken H (Note to self: ALWAYS use the '/s' tag, even when you don't think it's necessary.)
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To: Ken H
"Do you support PA’s authority under the Tenth Amendment to regulate intrastate marijuana as it sees fit?"

Of course I do - but so what?? I would also support the concept of PA regulating abortion under the authority of the tenth amendment - but I'll also argue that allowing abortion is a terrible idea. There's a lot more things that are "possible" that should never happen.

Once more: my point is that I believe this is yet another attempt to propose government control and additional taxation. If you want to "deregulate" or "decriminalize" something, then just do that...make it legal and then back away. Don't create a new government bureaucracy and claim that you're doing everybody a favor. I would have thought that point would be clear enough in this forum.

34 posted on 02/13/2013 6:30:58 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp
Home brewing and distilling are legal; would you say age restrictions on alcohol use are therefore most assuredly unenforceable?

Yes, I would.

We'll have to agree to disagree; it's clear to me that since young people report that they can get marijuana more easily than beer or cigarettes, age regulation is more enforceable than prohibition.

The whole point is that these guys who want to legalize drugs complain that the existing laws can’t be enforced... yet the replacement situation they offer isn’t any better. It’s a poor argument for what they really want: more control/more revenue.

I agree that SOME who want to legalize drugs offer a regulation scheme that is in SOME respects no more enforceable than prohibition. Their proposals, whatever the motivation, are an improvement over the expensive, broadly unenforceable, and criminal-enriching status quo.

35 posted on 02/13/2013 7:15:42 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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Do you support PA’s authority under the Tenth Amendment to regulate intrastate marijuana as it sees fit?

Of course I do - but so what??

So, some FR Drug Warriors don't support that authority.

If you want to "deregulate" or "decriminalize" something, then just do that...make it legal and then back away. Don't create a new government bureaucracy and claim that you're doing everybody a favor. I would have thought that point would be clear enough in this forum.

How did you expect your belief in that first sentence to be clear when this is the first time you've said it? A number of FR Drug Warriors make statements about a new government bureaucracy even though they oppose even a lightly-(or un-)regulated legalization.

Do you support making it legal and then backing away?

36 posted on 02/13/2013 7:29:53 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
How did you expect your belief in that first sentence to be clear when this is the first time you've said it?

Because that wasn't the main point (as I said)... it was "...I believe this is yet another attempt to propose government control and additional taxation."

This Democrat is purporting to provide a benefit to society - to reduce the expenses involved in the War on Drugs. Yet - like all Democrats do - he proposes a large government control program to "correct" the problem... one likely to cost a pile of money to implement, and with a bunch of new regulations and restrictions that (I feel) will be unenforceable (or maybe 'selectively enforceable' is a better phrase).

That next sentence (about 'make it legal and back away') is my general view on things I believe the government should remove itself from. I said it in this context because it's 180° removed from what this guy proposed. He allegedly wants to reduce costs? Provide more freedom? Then fine - do that. But don't pretend to be a defender of the people when you're instituting Yet Another Government Program to add more control and more taxation.

Now all that said: you want to know if I would legalize marijuana or drugs in general (even though I'm trying to stay on topic that this is all really about another Democrat control tactic). I'll answer: No. The reason for this position has nothing to do with personal liberty (for if that was the only consideration, I wouldn't care). I do believe that it leads to damage for not only the users, but to their families and others not even connected with their proclivities.

But IF you say that public policy is improved by legalizing the stuff, then do it the right way - don't pretend to do so and use this as a façade to add more governmental control.

37 posted on 02/13/2013 9:32:54 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp
How did you expect your belief in that first sentence to be clear when this is the first time you've said it? [TEXT OMITTED: A number of FR Drug Warriors make statements about a new government bureaucracy even though they oppose even a lightly-(or un-)regulated legalization.]

Because that wasn't the main point (as I said)... it was "...I believe this is yet another attempt to propose government control and additional taxation."

And as I said (and you omitted) you left your position easily mistakable for the common FR Drug Warrior smokescreen about a new government bureaucracy even though they oppose even a lightly-(or un-)regulated legalization.

Now all that said: you want to know if I would legalize marijuana or drugs in general (even though I'm trying to stay on topic that this is all really about another Democrat control tactic). I'll answer: No. The reason for this position has nothing to do with personal liberty

Shouldn't personal liberty be a significant consideration for any conservative?

(for if that was the only consideration, I wouldn't care). I do believe that it leads to damage for not only the users,

So do alcohol, tobacco, and Big Gulps - do you favor banning those?

but to their families and others not even connected with their proclivities.

What sort of "damage"? Anything that's the proper business of government?

38 posted on 02/13/2013 9:42:42 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I’m done.


39 posted on 02/13/2013 10:01:20 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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