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To: WildHighlander57

Anyone of any age can move out of the country and renounce their U.S. Citizenship. There are many circumstances where a CLN will not be issued, regardless of a renouncement of citizenship. For example, a CLN will not be issued if the applicant cannot demonstrate they will not be stateless after the CLN is issued.

In the case of minor voluntarily renouncing, the parent or guardian informs the State Department their child wants to renounce their U.S. Citizenship. After the State Department informs the parent that a parent cannot renounce a child’s citizenship, the parent is asked if they want to sign migration agent agreement where a temporary guardian is assigned to assist the minor with the renouncement of citizenship.

The agent, usually a locally employed staff member at the U.S. Embassy, acts as the child’s guardian for the express purpose of championing the child’s cause for renouncement. The agent interviews the child, family, friends, neighbors and establishes background information for a report filed with to the Consular Affair Officer (CA0).

The CAO uses the report to conduct an investigation. The CAO main focus is a check to see if the child is involved in a child custody dispute, a victim of kidnapping or otherwise being sought by law enforcement.

In Obama’s case, he was the adopted son Lolo Soetoro with an Hawaiian COLB naming Lolo Soetoro as his birth father and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro as his birth mother. There was no record of BHO Sr. searching for his son. After Stanley Ann told the State Department she planned to stay in Indonesia “indefinately” with her “INDO” husband, there wasn’t any reason to think Obama wanted to maintain his U.S. Citizenship.


85 posted on 02/14/2013 11:12:42 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: SvenMagnussen; Cold Case Posse Supporter

CCPS, pinging you to this reply by Sven. How to reconcile what you found with what he’s claiming?

Let me know your take on it.


90 posted on 02/14/2013 11:26:57 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: SvenMagnussen

Mr. Magnussen. I have repeatedly asked you this:

Have you specifically checked the ‘National Archives’ in Maryland for verification the ‘Certificate of Naturalization’ is actually there?

If so when and what did you find? I would appreciate if you could be so kindly to answer. You would be doing us all a great favor. Thanks

Cold Case Posse Supporter


92 posted on 02/14/2013 11:29:15 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: SvenMagnussen

You state Mr. Magnussen:

“In Obama’s case, he was the adopted son Lolo Soetoro with an Hawaiian COLB naming Lolo Soetoro as his birth father and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro as his birth mother.”

What date (or year) would this Soetoro Hawaiian COLB been issued?


94 posted on 02/14/2013 11:40:37 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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