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Forced Do Not Resuscitate Orders Coming to Texas?
Life News ^ | 2/13/13 12:23 PM | Life News

Posted on 02/13/2013 8:25:19 PM PST by penelopesire

Forced Do Not Resuscitate Orders Coming to Texas? by Wesley J. Smith | Austin, TX | LifeNews.com | 2/13/13 12:23 PM

Good grief! The state with the worst futile care law in the nation now has legislation pending that would enable doctors to place DNR (do not resuscitate) orders on a patients chart without notice or permission–even if the patient is competent! From the text of S.B. 303:

Sec.A166.012. STATEMENT RELATING TO DO-NOT-RESUSCITATE ORDERS.

(c) Before placing a do-not-resuscitate (DNR) order in a patient ’s medical record, the physician or the facility ’s personnel shall make a reasonably diligent effort to contact or cause to be contacted the surrogate. The facility shall establish a policy regarding the notification required under this section. The policy may authorize the notification to be given verbally by a physician or facility personnel. (d)The DNR order takes effect at the time it is written in the patient ’s chart or otherwise placed in the patient ’s medical record. (e) If the patient or surrogate disagrees with the DNR order being placed in or removed from the medical record, the patient or surrogate may request a second opinion at the patient ’s or surrogate ’s expense.

The notification requirement only applies to patients not expected to die within weeks or days. If the patient is expected to die imminently, the obligation to attempt notification and the right to a self-paid second opinion does not exist:

(f) Subsection (c) [the notification section quoted above] does not apply to a DNR order placed in the medical record of a patient:(1) whose death, based on reasonable medical judgment,is imminent despite attempted resuscitation; (2) for whom, based on reasonable medical judgment, resuscitation would be medically ineffective and there is insufficient time to contact the surrogate;…

Subsection (e) [right to obtain second opinion] does not apply to a DNR order placed in the medical record of a patient with respect to whom, based on reasonable medical judgment, death is expected in days to weeks and resuscitation would be medically ineffective.

What does “medically ineffective” mean? It isn’t defined. Moreover, it couldn’t be the same as “imminent despite attempted resuscitation,” or that language would have been repeated. Given the justifications for futile care arguments, this could reflect a judgment based on “quality of life” rather than the resuscitation being physiologically useless.

Doctors who impose DNRs on charts without permission would be accorded extraordinary legal protection for their mistakes or unilateral inactions:

(i) A physician, health professional acting under the direction of a physician, or health care facility is not civilly or criminally liable or subject to review or disciplinary action by the appropriate licensing authority if the actor has complied with the procedures under this section…

So, even if the physicians are negligent in their diagnoses, so long as they follow the procedure, they are home free? This would mean that there would be no checks and balances in an issue of life and death!


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; dnr; forceddnr; prolifeissues
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To: penelopesire
This is clearly unethical, regarding the doctor's authority to designate DNR without prior permission from the patient detailing precise circumstances, and/or permission from next-of-kin or medical proxy.

The problem is, if a law is passed, then the law must be followed, and the question would be, will the Texas legislature (sic) actually read this bill before passing it? Or will it be like "ObamaCare", where it's part of a giant omnibus bill that "we have to pass it to see what's in it"?

I'm counting on Texas to continue as a beacon for freedom, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, although it certainly wouldn't hurt to just call your Congressperson and remind him/her of that!

21 posted on 02/13/2013 9:10:01 PM PST by 88keys (where are the real Americans?!)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

LOL....I can always count on FReepers to make me laugh even in the darkest of times.


22 posted on 02/13/2013 9:10:23 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: One Name

Well said.


23 posted on 02/13/2013 9:11:50 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

Sick....


24 posted on 02/13/2013 9:12:34 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: penelopesire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Care_Pathway_for_the_Dying_Patient


25 posted on 02/13/2013 9:13:40 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: penelopesire; SandRat; Marie; basil; JPII Be Not Afraid; batterycommander; Squantos; Eaker; ...

Now would be a damn good time to remove the Organ Donor permission data from your medical files. Of course that wouldn’t have any effect in how fast they slip the DNR info into your file, would it?


26 posted on 02/13/2013 9:16:09 PM PST by B4Ranch (When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting booths to do it.)
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To: penelopesire

Thanks for posting and please ping with any additional info you may find. I’d love to know who (all) is behind this.


27 posted on 02/13/2013 9:17:11 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: B4Ranch

Put Alex Kayhill and Ranger Walker on stopping this. :^)


28 posted on 02/13/2013 9:20:07 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
Now THAT is frightening, and detailed...

and where have I heard that word before..."deemed"...???

Stay vigilant, all.

29 posted on 02/13/2013 9:20:23 PM PST by 88keys (where are the real Americans?!)
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To: Jane Long

It says the author of the bill is Duell - If it is Bob Duell, wiki says he is a a conservative republican.


30 posted on 02/13/2013 9:23:46 PM PST by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

Sorry, Bob Deuell


31 posted on 02/13/2013 9:25:01 PM PST by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid; All
Thanks. I found this...

Sen. Robert Deuell, R-Greenville, filed legislation Thursday, SB 303, that provides clarification to Texas’ Advanced Directives Act, which sets out the end-of-life care for patients. Deuell’s bill adds language that specifically addresses patients “for whom life-sustaining treatment would be medically inappropriate and ineffective,” Weltge said. It also sets out a longer timeline for notifications and an appeals process for families or surrogates of terminally ill patients who disagree with the patient or the doctor’s wishes for treatment.

Here's a link to article I found.

32 posted on 02/13/2013 9:32:13 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: Jane Long

Thanks! I will be calling for answers in the am. I found ths:

http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/senate/members/dist2/dist2.htm


33 posted on 02/13/2013 9:34:40 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: B4Ranch

I understand that in NYC when you call 911, the organ donors crew gets there before the EMT sometimes.


34 posted on 02/13/2013 9:38:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: penelopesire
Um, this doesn't say what most think it does, and it addresses a real problem of spending millions to keep OD’d drug addicts alive another day or two with no hope of saving them.

The world is harsh. Sorry. BTW It is harsher when someone wants their kid/brother/sister/parent resuscitated but the hospital does not have the resources to provide follow-on treatment and they die.

PS If this is what I read about, it is a response to attempted federal preemption of required care under obamacare specifically designed to kill private owned hospitals. To whit: only the Feds can decide who gets treatment and who dies. Guess what? The Feds won't choose you or yours, especially if the state opts out, they'll make whatever choices inflict the most harm on private caregivers. And people WILL die, but the statists could not care less.

35 posted on 02/13/2013 10:15:28 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Marie

It is wise to have your wishes for health care expressed in an advanced directive. An advanced directive states specifically what you want and what you do not want done for you. It also appoints someone to act in your place if for some reason you are unable to act for yourself. EVERYONE should have one and a designated person for health care power of attorney.


36 posted on 02/13/2013 10:19:29 PM PST by Nifster
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To: penelopesire

I am reviewing the bill. I think this article may be taken out of context. Further down in the bill, DNR is explained in detail. If you want to read the bill, you can find it at this location:

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83R/billtext/pdf/SB00303I.pdf

I am no lawyer, but I don’t think it is as grim as it sounds.


37 posted on 02/13/2013 10:36:55 PM PST by drinktheobamakoolaid (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: drinktheobamakoolaid

I hope you are right. Life News is usually pretty credible from my experience. But they could have jumped the gun on this one for sure. Not out of realm of possibilities. We are all pretty jumpy these days, for good reason. Our government is out of control with left wing, culture of death hacks...lol.


38 posted on 02/13/2013 11:01:15 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: piytar

Thanks for posting your take on the article.


39 posted on 02/13/2013 11:03:18 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: B4Ranch

My father was sent to the ER a couple of weeks ago, he’s 90 for possible Pneumonia. The asst.living home he was in called 911 first instead of me. Anyway the doctor on duty had to ask do I want them to do anything!,Anything! damn its a chest cold, I would have brought him decongestant and scheduled an appt. with his doctor, but because of having a DNR on file they were prepared to just make him comfortable and let him go at his age.
Which may have been better because he wasn’t admitted and has recovered enough to try messing with his taxes!Ha-Ha


40 posted on 02/13/2013 11:08:03 PM PST by Redak
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