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To: Pollster1
With Obama, I have been unable to identify even one substantive positive, and I have tried hard to find anything that was not terrible.

I can -- he has proved instrumental in unifying, to some degree, his opponents. Granted, he has virtually no opponents in the upper-level federal government and those upper-level people keep in check the mid- and lower-levels, and the corruption of the government greatly facilitates this.

Further, despite it being a bad-thing the unemployment that is forcing people [usually young-ish] to move back with their families could be a very-good-thing. -- It's easier to disconnect the heavy-handed actions of a police-state when it's "just a bad guy" [like, say, Dorner] vs. a no knock raid that breaks grandma's hip and has the children in cuffs for hours. (IOW, the cost of allowing tyranny quickly becomes more real if people see it happening to whole families, especially if they have their own whole-family to worry about.)

10 posted on 02/14/2013 9:29:13 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Further, despite it being a bad-thing the unemployment that is forcing people [usually young-ish] to move back with their families could be a very-good-thing.

I have my 23 y/o daughter, son-in-law and two of my grand-kids living with me due to Obama's wonderful "recovery," and she is an Obama fan. I also have other family members who are experiencing a family-reconnect due to Obama's economy, so I see what you are saying and agree that it could prove to be a very-good-thing.

Our recent time together - now as adults and not as father/daughter - has really opened her eyes about a great many things. She even admitted that her views and thoughts about who I was and why I was conservative have really changed as she sees that I live the life that I espouse: work hard, take care of your own and get the government out of our business!

I truly never expect her to become as conservative as me, because she relies so heavily on government assistance, and even thinks that it is good because she doesn't have to work full-time. She says that it is a good thing that the government gives out food stamps, day-care, etc... because she can work part-time and spend more time with her kids. Right now, my wife is providing the day-care (spending more time between multiple generations - a GREAT thing) and she is not needing food stamps. She said, "Sure, but I don't want to live here forever." I agreed and told her that she only need stay until they can care for themselves WITHOUT government assistance. But, she is more interested in having her own house and being "on her own" than understanding that she will again become addicted to those subsidies if she leaves too soon.

I explained that this "assistance" is like crack samples the pushers give out - it is only to get you deeper in their grasp. As a side note, my son-in-law has actually started to agree with me - which isn't currently helping their relationship - he says they should stay until they can actually be "on their own," not needing ANYONE'S assistance.
15 posted on 02/14/2013 9:51:50 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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