Posted on 02/15/2013 8:16:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Totally true. I worked for a union and they admit that this is the only reason they push for minimum wage. They don’t care about the poor, they care about raising their member’s already inflated wages.
Exactly, and it will help fund SS and disabiity payments a little longer.
Robert Reiche has been advocating a $20 per hour minimum wage for DECADES.
Yep... the left gets all up in arms when people/businesses move to COMPLY WITH THE LAW but not with what the left intended them to do - ie, eat it.
Whenever I hear some leftist offer that we need to raise the minimum wage, I always say, “If raising it is good, then why not simply raise it to $100/hr?” I always love seeing their dumbfounded expressions as they ponder this option. They know there has to be something wrong with this idea, but they just can’t figure out what.
The difference now is that union membership has plummeted so dramatically that they are increasingly desperate for new revenue to keep the gravy train rolling. So organizing new amnesty recipients in their minimum-wage workplace has become attractive to many unions. Anything for the dues.
Less than two percent of people earning minimum wage do so to support their families.
Of course European leftists already learned this lesson, which is why they build a wall around West Berlin back in the late 50s.
Like I heard on Rushbo sometime ago that Union contracts are based on the minimum wage. That’s Obamas bone to the Unions.
The difference between liberty and tyranny is the direction the guns are facing at the border.
I would simply ask that everyone please start referring to this wage properly. Please start calling it the beginners wage. The minimum wage is meant to get a young person started in the labor force. If you are twenty five years old and are working for minimum wages something is wrong. Maybe you are suffering from a lack of ambition. Obama would say that we need more worker training. Bull all Americans are not stupid only the ones who voted for Obama.
O.K. I’ll play.
1) Walmart is forcing you to see the unfairness of robbing one person to give to another (you presumably feel more deserving). This is what Foodstamps and Medicaid are. (Notice they are NOT in the Constitution.) It seems to rankle you when Walmart takes advantage of this, but not when people using and abusing these programs do. So, my hypocrit/BS meter is going off.
2) It would take a lot of detailed and compelling “studies” by organizations that are demonstrably non-partisan to convince me that Up-is-Down, or Left-is-Right. Bring it on. You are forcing a price for labor that the market does not support. This has many effects, all negative, on a free market. I’m not going to elborate any more on this than you have on your “studies”.
3) The extent to which minimum wage earners are NOT teenagers is the extent to which minimum wage and other point 1) programs are being abused. Minimum Wage is SUPPOSED to be exactly that. A MINIMUM wage that keeps a skill-less, inexperienced worker from being completely exploited by his lack of anything competitive to offer that allows him to command a higher wage. If he is NOT a teenager and single than WTF is going on? Is this the Gravy-Train? Do you have a RIGHT to reproduce irresponsibly or force others to compensate for you not improving yourself? If the JOB is not worth $9 an hour, then it is NOT. You can close your eyes and stamp your feet all you want, but you’re not going to change reality. All you’re going to ultimately do is change the value of what that $9 is worth.
How did I do?
That question is trying to confuse the issue by conflating two ideas and misusing the word subsidize. The taxpayer is not subsidizing Walmart. The government would be subsidizing Walmart if it were paying Walmart directly so that Walmart could keep its prices low. Walmart is able to keep its prices low by keeping its costs low. Walmart has no control over whether or not the government gives out welfare or who the government gives it to, or how much.
Why shouldn’t a fulltime worker make enough, without welfare, to live?
A full time worker would make enough if he became more productive. The formula for wage rates is w = (d/s), or in other words, average money wage rates equals demand for labor divided by supply for labor. There is no divine right of stagnation. If a worker wants to earn enough then he should improve himself. There is a higher demand for knowledgeable, skilled, and experienced workers, and less of a supply of them, so they will be able to earn a higher wage rate on average.
The Pelosi house raised the min wage in the 2nd/3rd qtr of 2008 and GWB signed it into law. By the 4th qtr 2008 we were in an official recession. So, now Obama wants to do more of what caused the “terrible economy he inherited.”
Oh well, at least we get to punish small business owners!
2 people at $7.25 per hour will be merged into 1 person at $9 per hour, for a net saving to the employer of $5.50 per hour. The liberals will have to pass another law to prevent this.
As has been reported, all the entitlement programs could be eliminated and that money would pay each family $60,000 per year. But, administrative costs eat up most of the money.
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