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Critic's Notebook: Movie violence must not be stopped,The problem isn't Hollywood,
latimes.com ^ | Feb 15 2013 | By Betsy Sharkey,

Posted on 02/15/2013 12:46:27 PM PST by NoLibZone

The problem isn't Hollywood, it's real life, where killing long predates film. What we see on the silver screen can be helpful.

By Betsy Sharkey, Los Angeles Times Film Critic

February 15, 2013, 7:00 a.m.

I abhor violence. As a rookie police reporter years ago I saw the damage guns, knives, broken bottles, metal pipes, hands — humans — can inflict. From the terrifyingly premeditated to the unfortunately accidental, those images still have the power to shake me to the core. They will never leave me.

I don't, however, believe the movies are to blame for these acts. As good as Hollywood is at reimagining the intrinsic brutality that roams our streets, burrows into twisted minds, plays havoc with our world, nothing I've seen in movies comes close to what I witnessed firsthand.

Perhaps that is why movie violence doesn't offend me. I may be unsettled by it, but no matter the saturation level, I rarely turn away.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; guncontrol; hollywood; liberalviolence; massmurderer; movieviolence; secondamendment
The left make billions on violence Hollywood pumps out 24/7 .

It's the DNC largest money source.

1 posted on 02/15/2013 12:46:35 PM PST by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

The Democrats’ largest source of money and power has always been the unions. But Hollywood, and people such as Rob Reiner and Susan Sarandon, are right behind them.

You are forgiven for this misunderstanding.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 12:50:12 PM PST by Bryan
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To: NoLibZone

“What we see on the silver screen can be helpful.”

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3 posted on 02/15/2013 12:51:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s also one of the few remaining ‘healthy’ industries in California.

Nice. The ONLY thing that Caifornia can be counted on to consistently contribute to American society is more and uglier smut and violence.... Hey! Hands off Nitwit Nancy’s sacred cow!! (Sacred CASH cow!)


4 posted on 02/15/2013 12:54:10 PM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: NoLibZone

The problem is the dissolution of families which the left has been strongly encouraging. “No” families have provided the framework of moral decay where life isn’t worth the paper on which Roe v Wade was written. The “entitlement” structure of the left has meant a “me first” attitude and “everyone else be damned” right down to the newest Air Jordans that children of the left feel entitled to kill for.


5 posted on 02/15/2013 12:58:56 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s all in the context of the situation. There’s the difference between killing and murder. There’s the difference between what one must do and sadistic cruelty. It’s like the difference between motivation to practice proper capitalism and greed. All too many fail to understand. That’s why our economy is going where it’s going.

That’s why our constitutional (civil) rights are more often being violated. For example, animals don’t have rights as much as people do. If that rubs a nerve,...


6 posted on 02/15/2013 12:59:59 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: NoLibZone

The NRA, guns and gunowners aren’t the problem either. Now we’re getting somewhere.


7 posted on 02/15/2013 1:08:28 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: NoLibZone

Hollywood is promulgating the lie that they simply make harmless entertainment. It has been known for a long time that people are extremely receptive to imagery and repetative themes hammered into them. Triumph of the Will being the classic textbook example, but people taken as a large group aren’t as free-thinking as they’d like to believe. Hollywood’s glorification of violence is directly connected with the attitudes of their audiences. It’s just simple psychology that molders of public opinion with political and social agendas have known for ages.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 1:12:33 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: NoLibZone
The problem isn't Hollywood, it's real life, where killing long predates film.

Killing long predates guns.

Just ask Cain.

Time to ban rocks..

9 posted on 02/15/2013 1:15:39 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: NoLibZone

Classified ad business has moved to the net, as has, mostly, the car selling business. Hollywood is the last business that buys full page ads in rags like this one. That’s all that needs to be said.


10 posted on 02/15/2013 1:19:45 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: NoLibZone

Visual stimuli from extreme violence and porn has no affect on the human brain. That’s why explosions and beautiful women in skimpy clothing are never used in advertising.


11 posted on 02/15/2013 1:25:35 PM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: NoLibZone
I may be unsettled by it, but no matter the saturation level, I rarely turn away.

The issue is not whether you or I are affected by it. The issue is whether there are a significant number of people who, by frequent exposure to violence in movies and video games, can become conditioned to violence.

By the same logic that contends that we should ban guns because a few people go on rampages, or that we should ban 32 ounce soda because a few people get obese because of them, then by that same logic we should ban violent movies.

12 posted on 02/15/2013 1:26:32 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: NoLibZone

Did we not just hear the Administration blame some stupid movie that nobody ever saw for INCITING VIOLENCE??


13 posted on 02/15/2013 1:31:21 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: familyop
For example, animals don’t have rights as much as people do.

To paraphrase an (in)famous Supreme Court Justice:

'"Animals have no rights that any man is bound by the law to respect." What "Man" does have is dominion over the creatures and responsibility for the animals in his trust.


Rights demand the ability of responsibilities, not just the good stuff as in what teenagers think they get when they turn into adults as defined by the government.

Otherwise I agree with you...

14 posted on 02/15/2013 1:35:02 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: PapaBear3625

The other problem is the US murder rate was higher before movies were invented.


15 posted on 02/15/2013 1:54:25 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: NoLibZone

It looks like Betsy Sharkey is putting in her bid to be invited to the latest Hollywood parties. She makes sure to drop enough names to fill a swimming pool and tells them how great they are. That their endless copies are really original. Hollywood is on notice; it is safe to invite her.


16 posted on 02/15/2013 1:55:17 PM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: NoLibZone

This isn’t Hollywoods fault, nor guns. It’s the fault of people who made the decisions they chose to make.


17 posted on 02/15/2013 2:13:41 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Darren McCarty

Ditto!


18 posted on 02/15/2013 2:42:57 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: NoLibZone

Americans watch a cumulative ten trillion hours of movies/TV per year.


19 posted on 02/15/2013 2:56:38 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: SMARTY
The ONLY thing that Caifornia can be counted on to consistently contribute to American society is more and uglier smut and violence....

I guess the chips in the computer you are using and the routers and servers that got your ignorant opinion online on a site hosted in California don't count.

20 posted on 02/15/2013 3:01:37 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: NoLibZone

Start turning out “snuff” movies where tort lawyers, MSM talking heads, movie critics, LGBQXYZ and Eco activists are the victims and the perpetrators are given sympathetic treatment. You will see a 180 degree turn in this attitude.


21 posted on 02/15/2013 3:14:12 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: NoLibZone

There are whole franchises now of “torture porn” movies under the guise of horror film. Spam in a cabin slasher films became passe.

Bobcat Goldthwait made a movie about a suicidal middle aged libtard and a jaded high school girl going on a shooting spree (titled God Bless America). They kill audience members in a movie theater. They kill a thinly veiled Glen Beck. They attack a parody of the Fred Phelps cult (someone should tell Bob that Fred Phelps is a Democrat politician who has run for office several times). They attack a Tea Party rally and ultimately go out in a blaze of gory shooting up the audience and contestants of a (Fox) American Idol knockoff.

But it is those tea partiers we gotta be skeered of. They might resort to violence. The DNC Media and government have said so.


22 posted on 02/15/2013 3:26:29 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NoLibZone; Revolting cat!

Violence in movies doesn’t influence behavior or mood.
Sex in movies doesn’t influence behavior or mood.
Comedy in movies doesn’t influence behavior or mood.
Smoking in movies doesn’t influence behavior...


23 posted on 02/15/2013 3:33:09 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NoLibZone
Hollywood is willing to bet large amounts of money it can influence your behavior enough to get you to watch the movie, but is unwilling to accept any responsibility for your behavior resulting from the content they created.

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/movie-cost1.htm

Marketing makes up a huge chunk of modern movie budgets — $35.9 million on average — largely because the fates of many Hollywood releases are sealed in the first week. Big money is spent on trailers, TV ads, billboards, and Web sites to pack people in on opening weekend. That strategy seems to work: “Spiderman 3” made 45 percent of its total gross ticket sales in its opening week, while “X-Men: The Last Stand” made 52 percent of its money in its first week of release [source: Box Office Guru]

When calculating a marketing budget, the rule of thumb is to spend 50 percent of the rest of the production costs (pre-production, filming and post-production) [source: Vogel]. So if a movie costs $100 million to make, you'll need an additional $50 million to sell it.

24 posted on 02/15/2013 3:38:18 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: RedMonqey

The rights for mankind are shown in our Constitution. Show me where our Constitution allows man’s responsibility to animals to trump the rights of human beings. It’s not there, while the rights of human beings are explicitly written.

From a recent case of travesty,... Livestock, for example, are property. No one can justly rob a rancher of his cattle in the USA. It’s against the law of our land to do so. It’s an attack against our US Constitution.

Nearly all ranchers lose cattle. The consequence of any lack of responsibility on their part is that of profit losses. No debt-laden mob has any right to make laws with the real purpose of robbing ranchers.

Here’s a consequence of animal worship (re. elevating imaginary rights of animals above those of American people). If people go hungry in the near future, contrary to assumptions of vain robbers, hungry people will be aware of exactly who is responsible.


25 posted on 02/15/2013 3:58:36 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: NoLibZone

“As a rookie police reporter years ago I saw the damage guns, knives, broken bottles, metal pipes, hands — humans — can inflict.”

Liar! Cops don’t allow reporters to walk around crime scenes. Liar! She’s extrapolating what she saw in movies onto what she thinks she did. Liar! These leftists are totally insane.

Reporters sit in a tiny room in a big city police station listening to and monitoring the police channels. After a crime happens, they go to the watch commander, usually a captain, and ask for details. The captain will tell the reporter to go F himself until he speaks to the chief to learn what details can be released.

Cops don’t trust leftist reporters for good reason. Police departments have SOP for dealing with reporters. This lying POS never saw a crime scene except in a movie.


26 posted on 02/15/2013 4:15:40 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: NoLibZone

Hollywood can pretend to kill, rape, torture without effecting society, but don’t you dare let them smoke a cigarette, some kid might start to smoke cause its cool...Hollywood is full of jackass’s and perverts.


27 posted on 02/16/2013 1:42:35 AM PST by goat granny
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To: NoLibZone

How is that a 2 hour gore fest has NO influence on the psyche but a 30 second Superbowl commercial can create millions of customers? And how do you make your living killing people in movies yet be anti violence and guns?


28 posted on 02/16/2013 7:13:00 PM PST by ClearBlueSky
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