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They fear him. He is eligible to run for president since his parents were both Americans. He scares them because he is a contender for 2016 and the MSM will have a hard time attacking the GOP as the ‘angry white’ party if we have 2 Hispanics running. They’ll try, but Cruz has bite. With a little coaching, I’m sure he could decimate the media in a way Romney couldn’t. It’s time we smacked these people down.


19 posted on 02/17/2013 8:36:44 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
He is eligible to run for president since his parents were both Americans.

I believe only his mother was. Doesn't really matter. He was born a U.S. citizen. He didn't have to naturalize. I'm sure if he wanted to run, the Senate would extend the same courtesy they did to McCain and declare Cruz natural born by resolution. The courts don't seem interested in addressing the issue of eligibility and the Roberts court in particular has already shown itself willing to defer to the voters.

So there you have it.

22 posted on 02/17/2013 9:28:43 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Viennacon; LucyT; Brown Deer; null and void; Drew68; Cringing Negativism Network
They fear him. He is eligible to run for president since his parents were both Americans.

From Drew68's #22: I believe only his mother was. Doesn't really matter. He was born a U.S. citizen. He didn't have to naturalize. I'm sure if he wanted to run, the Senate would extend the same courtesy they did to McCain and declare Cruz natural born by resolution. The courts don't seem interested in addressing the issue of eligibility and the Roberts court in particular has already shown itself willing to defer to the voters.

I am personally strongly pro Cruz--far more effective and more qualified candidate than Rubio. So I view all this commentary as a disaster.

The Natural Born Citizen eligibility question turns solely on the question of whether the individual was born within the geographical limits of the several states--all the rest of this stuff is pure nonsense. That is the substantive Constitutional Law answer.

The stuff about the Robert's Court is applicable to the effort to conceal the place and circumstances of the birth of the current occupant of the White House whose political supporters have obviously developed an effective way to control Roberts. If the Constitutional Law answer were uncertain, which it is not, it is a dreamworld for anyone to believe that a Roberts Court would influence the outcome in our favor.

The Senate action would be as irrelevant as it was in McCain's case--the Senate does not have the Constitutional Power to tell the Supreme Court how to decide questions of Constitutional Law; the Court has historically demonstrated an offensive reaction to this kind of Legislation. McCain was not eligible no matter who was on the Court--he was born in Panama.

Further, the citizenship answer itself is a little more complex--I have not studied Cruz's facts. But if his mother alone was a US Citizen, his citizenship at birth is not a clear answer either--depending on when he was born, citizenship from a US mother citizen requires compliance with several specific conditions.

Even worse, most Constitutional Law authorities (see the article in the Cornell Law Review) view the mother citizenship statute as unconstitutional because it does not provide for equal citizenship access to a person whose father was a US Citizen and the person's mother was not.

Surprising if true that this issue has not come up earlier--because citizenship is required (Article I, Section 3) to serve in the Senate: "No person shall be a Senator who shall not have . . . been nine Years a Citizen of the United States . . . . "

If only his mother was a US Citizen and she does not pass citizenship to Cruz, how does he get to be a Citizen at all absent a nationalization proceeding?

30 posted on 02/17/2013 10:33:03 AM PST by David
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To: Viennacon
With a little coaching, I’m sure he could decimate the media in a way Romney couldn’t. It’s time we smacked these people down.

He won't get the air time. We'll have to get the word out by ourselves. It won't be easy.

35 posted on 02/17/2013 10:55:24 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: Viennacon

bump!


46 posted on 02/17/2013 11:14:57 AM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: Viennacon

The question is did his father naturalize to become a U.S. citizen before Ted was born? If not, he is not a natural born Citizen eligible for Article 2 Section 1.


55 posted on 02/17/2013 12:03:28 PM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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