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Thank you for the reply, and I will type this quickly.

The main issue is that there is no way to pay for everything without massive tax increases or cuts. The GOP is trying (to their credit) to hold to the “no new taxes” pledge, but that means a lot of pain.

I seem to remember that you are a DOD contractor. If so, I imagine your hours will get cut. That is unfortunate, but in the private sector it is very common. Many of us haven’t had a raise in six years, many more have had out right salary cuts. Heck, a great many have had to find other jobs because of layoffs. If the government workers expect sympathy from those who are not... Lets just say that isn’t wise.

Still, it does highlight a very dangerous thing for our country. The fact that furloughing some government workers is taken as a net drag on the economy means that we have a great deal of said workers. Looking at our deficits, we haven’t been paying them with “real” money, any more that we do the entitlements like Social Security and Medicare. That we are at the stage of the game where any cuts are paraded around as “The end of the WORLD!”, means that the shell game is nearing the end.

What bothers me on this board is that there are a great many fiscal conservatives, until it is their turn. I have seen people stating that we should sell Yellowstone to the Chinese in order to pay for “their” social security.

There is no money. Taxes will have to go up by at least 50% across the board, and massive cuts made to many programs, to keep the military and entitlements going. By the looks of it, the GOP and the rest of the elite, have chosen to end the military and keep social security. Sad thing is they didn’t buy themselves much time.

Thank you for a sane and logical reply. That seems to be a vanishing quantity here on Free Republic as of late.

While I am an Aerospace Engineer and former Air Force pilot, I am not a DoD contractor. I got out of that business (thank God). But I still care deeply about the US military, which is being systematically destroyed all around us - and no one seems to care - much less the "Conservatives" on this forum.

in the private sector it is very common. Many of us haven’t had a raise in six years, many more have had out right salary cuts.

I am right there with you. It does not justify what is being done to the United States military. Obama and Gate/Panetta raped the US military to the tune of $487 Billion starting 2 years ago. Those were real, actual cuts. Thousands upon thousands of jobs were lost. The military heathcare system has beeen under assault for years now under Obama.

The American public should be ashamed of itself.

The Americans who sacrificed the most since 9-11 have been pushed forward into the abyss the most - and the non-reaction of Mr. and Mrs. American Idol has been extraordinary in that they just do not care.

What we are witnessing is a wholesale betrayal. I used to respect people like Paul Ryan, but it turns out that he is just another lackey who postures about how much he thinks he knows, but never paid the price.

There is no money. Even if we ZEROED out Defense spending (which is Constitutional by the way, Entitlements are not), this is how things look:

We will all pay a price for this. Mark my words.

I think that God is about to judge the baby boomer generation for their greed, avarice, and lack of faith. It is not going to be pretty.

I suggest that you Google “Forbes CEO Compensation” to give some thought to other salaries that should be cut. Forty years ago, top CEO’s earned about 40 times the pay of their lowest paid workers. By 2007 that ratio had risen to something like 400 to 1 or even 1,000 to 1. Since 2008 it has dropped a little, but is still very. As a stockholder I have voted for a “stockholder’s advisory on executive compensation.” Small stockholders need to pay more attention to this issue. The middle class is disappearing.