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This is my new book, partially inspired by what I've read here - the Amazon link is http://www.amazon.com/House-Divided-Second-Civil-ebook/dp/B00BIAJ7MS/ref=la_B00A08VH68_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1361504518&sr=1-5

I'd love to share it with you folks.

1 posted on 02/21/2013 10:50:07 PM PST by furquhart
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>>>bearing more resemblance to the Commons versus Crown clash that was the English Civil War <<<

I’ve had this idea literally for years, and I’ve written about here at FR. The ideas motivating the conflict in our time and during the Glorious Revolution are the same, too... does the monarch (or the state) have unlimited authority, or should the authority of the monarch (or the state) be limited?

In any case... God help us.


2 posted on 02/21/2013 11:08:47 PM PST by redpoll
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Very plausible argument.

I think such is the reasoning of the left pushing to subvert the 2nd Amendment.

I also think State's Rights will force the situation by one or many States (Texas probably being one) refusal to go along with more and more waste, “do as I say” control and socialism and the Federal government moving to try forcing those states to obey.

Even in that scenario, I wouldn't expect Civil War, rather and as you say a coup, probably by the Military without much actual combat.

3 posted on 02/21/2013 11:16:56 PM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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It’s inevitable. There’s no damn way we can co-exist with libtards.


4 posted on 02/21/2013 11:17:37 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: furquhart

yes.

next question.


5 posted on 02/21/2013 11:22:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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>>At some point, events will have been allowed to escalate to such a degree that both sides will face a choice between either offering their surrender or accepting battle with no guarantee that even a victorious outcome will save their vision of America and of the Constitution. <<

The Whigs have mastered the surrender part really well. Good article, look forward to reading the book.

However, if the MEN who founded the Republic or the MEN who formed the Confederacy were alive today, CW2 would have been well underway by now. Today, no MAN will stop forward to yell “STOP” or to call Elmer Fudd to task.


6 posted on 02/21/2013 11:26:12 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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Too many imagine some contest of arms, but that will not succeed without first creating a new ship of state, as our Founding Fathers did.

I believe the time has come, that for each county throughout each of the states, that county Tea Party should convene and choose 2 representatives to attend a Tea Party convention of their state, which will in turn debate and then consider and elect 2 representatives of their state, to attend a unique Tea Party national convention for the purpose of establishing a Second Continental Congress.

Setting the time and place for a first setting of the Second Continental Congress, then the unique national convention shall adjourn, and the representatives return to their states, where the Tea Party conventions of each state, will then take into consideration, who shall be their 2 representatives in the Second Continental Congress.

I believe, it is time to follow in the steps of our Founding Fathers, and create a new ship of state, to which our allegiance and love of our worthy American heritage and many foundations, shall transfer.

I believe, that *everybody* needs to see this preparation and action.

If the existing federal government fails us and takes one more step toward tyranny on which it has proven to be hell-bent, then we know, as Benjamin Franklin et al knew, it is time.

We must have a new democratic-republic to be where people can again be free from government tyranny, and we must, thru starting with a Second Continental Congress, make a good government, which will very likely be framed as the first but with a few refinements regarding how we may better limit government and that includes the courts.


7 posted on 02/21/2013 11:59:08 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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Your book looks quite interesting - certainly appears to have a lot more thought put into it than many article or essays that seem to think that another Civil War would look like 1861, with neat battle-lines drawn between states and armies civilly duking it out. No - I suspect that it would come down to the sort of bloody and vicious conflicts one saw in the Balkans, or the Caucus. Certainly not the sort of think to look forward to, as some folks have.

Just a bit curious - why do you bring up the possibility of a Canadian Civil War occurring before an American one? I can’t see the Quebec issue devolving into armed conflict - I’d imagine they would either stay, or be let go - and the nation is economically more healthy than the US. Of course, I’m an American - perhaps as a Canadian native you would have more insight into the Canadian political situation.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 12:56:56 AM PST by JerseyanExile
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Frankly, the assault of liberalism/leftism upon the US Constitution is an attack fomented from the outside by their allies on the inside. The liberals are the literal modern-day fifth column. Therefore the term “civil war” would not really be applicable.


13 posted on 02/22/2013 2:06:50 AM PST by Olog-hai
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bump

Quote of the day;

“Participating in a gun buy back because you believe that criminals have too many guns is like getting yourself a vasectomy because you believe that the neighbors have too many kids.”


14 posted on 02/22/2013 2:19:59 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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In order for there to be a civil war, as opposed to a time of rebellion and social turmoil, the chain of command has to fail.

The only way for that to happen is for there to be a legitimate disagreement within the officer corps about the legality or constitutionality of some act of the government.

This is exactly what happened in 1861, and without it, rebellion is suicide.


16 posted on 02/22/2013 3:03:43 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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It really won’t be defined as a Civil War. A second Revolutionary War is more of a correct definition.It then could turn into a hybrid Rev-Civ War if states start to fight each other.


17 posted on 02/22/2013 3:06:38 AM PST by Renegade
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Liberals have become a threat to all that I stand for.


19 posted on 02/22/2013 3:24:02 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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20 posted on 02/22/2013 3:25:13 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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The constitutional genie is out. I don’t see any scenario it can be put back in the bottle.


21 posted on 02/22/2013 4:02:16 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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Question: "Could a Second Civil War Happen?"

Answer: No.

Response: It will be a Social War,in essence Left vs. Right with a large racial element. The First American Civil War was a political war; i.e. could the States withdraw from the union at will.

22 posted on 02/22/2013 4:11:13 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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The soapbox and ballot box have failed us miserably, so yes - it could happen.


23 posted on 02/22/2013 4:39:01 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Jack Black
For your morning coffee.

5.56mm

26 posted on 02/22/2013 4:47:11 AM PST by M Kehoe
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I have posted for years that “two different cultures cannot occupy the same space” any more than can two objects. Two years of Latin in High School left me with some idea of what happened to Rome. Like you, it became aparrent to me years ago of the conflict that is seemingly inevitable in our future. Some months ago it occurred to me that my assumption at the beginning night be wrong and maybe there might be a way for to cultures to occupy the same space. Distinct economies would be a fundamental requirement. I conjectured that we could have “Blue Dollars” and let them have their “Red Dollars” (for the commies they are). Patriots would only take or do business with Blue Dollars and Progs would only deal in Red Dollars. No way it would be stable but it would allow a degeneration of their culture of no values while leaving ours almost unscathed. Something to ponder, anyway.


28 posted on 02/22/2013 5:00:00 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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THE ARTICLES BIG LAUGH LINE:”...does not the likelihood that some future crisis will spur some future President to take some spectacular action...”

People are always putting these thing in some “future”. Even now. With this president.

The “future” is here. Now.


31 posted on 02/22/2013 5:47:24 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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I would propose that the Red States Caucus would vote to purge neo Europa, the states from New York, north and east. Once the Eurotrash is gone, America can be America and the Eurocrats can have Europe in North America.


32 posted on 02/22/2013 5:54:02 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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