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Carter in Oscarland: The Rehabilitation of the 39th President (Mega-hurl)
The Daily Beast ^
| Feb. 24, 2013
| Douglas Brinkley
Posted on 02/24/2013 12:58:25 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: discostu
I think the real agenda was to put a good story on the screen Clooney rarely makes stuff without an agenda...especially involving the CIA, politics, Middle East etc.
He's one of the furthest left in Hollywood but go ahead and believe otherwise if you like.
To: Lumper20
Carter was such a damn disgrace that we had Ross Perot and Bull Simons rescue the EDS workers of Perot Forgot about that one.
Helps confirm my suspicion that Argo was made to revise history and try to create a "success" for Carter; in reality the Democratic party and Carter are responsible for the mess we have over there today.
Comment #43 Removed by Moderator
To: Stosh
“..historians are starting to see our 39th president as a flawed, yet visionary leader.”
Proves your point.
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posted on
02/24/2013 3:43:48 PM PST
by
Rennes Templar
(Business owners work harder! You have to support millions.)
To: dfwgator
Because he lost to him, and then he was a terrible president. There’s a lot of reason to hate Carter from both sides, he was a serious loser, still is.
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posted on
02/24/2013 3:45:55 PM PST
by
discostu
(Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
To: what's up
Well this time he did. There’s no agenda. If there’s an agenda it’s anti-Carter since it clearly makes him out to be am impediment to the mission. He does not look good in the movie.
Doesn’t matter what his politics are, we’re discussing THE MOVIE. and THE MOVIE does not help Carter. That’s not belief, that’s bothering to actually pay attention. Go ahead list the scenes show Carter positively. I’ve given you two that show him negatively, list the ones that show him positively. You keep insisting there’s an agenda, show the evidence, where are the scenes?
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posted on
02/24/2013 3:49:54 PM PST
by
discostu
(Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
To: dfwgator
“And Bush gave us 8 years of Obama.”
Nah, it was McCain.
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posted on
02/24/2013 4:04:30 PM PST
by
Rennes Templar
(Business owners work harder! You have to support millions.)
To: Rennes Templar
The military KNOWS that studying the failures is often more productive than studying the successes. Hollywierd has been enamored with the leftists long before the infamous "Mission to Moscow" made Stalin look like everybody's favorite uncle with a pipe. There is not a leftist alive or dead they cannot glorify, witness "The Motorcycle Diaries" of the mass murderer 'Che' Guevara.
I don't think I will hold my breath for any movie that features Carter's 'Desert One' fiasco which was so reminiscent of LBJ's micromanaging of the Vietnam War. Every study I have ever seen of that effort showed it to be full of 'critical failure points' although I have to say that that RATO equipped C-130 was a magnificent though ultimately unsuccessful effort!
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posted on
02/24/2013 4:10:55 PM PST
by
SES1066
(Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
To: Rennes Templar
Argo is such BS. the Alan Arkin character is made up, as is most of the story
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posted on
02/24/2013 4:43:25 PM PST
by
hecht
(america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
To: dfwgator
At the end of the DNC in 1980 when everyone was on the podium, Carter was desperately trying to get Teddy to shake his hand for the visual image of party unity, but Kennedy kept managing to evade him.
John Anderson had 5.7 million votes in 1980. Those were probably mostly cast by Democrats who couldn't stand Carter, along with some liberal Republicans.
I had the bad luck once to be at a banquet where Douglas Brinkley was the after-dinner speaker. He was then planning to write something about Carter so his talk was mostly about that and gushing about the occasion or occasions when he got to have some one-on-one interaction with Carter. I was sorely tempted to get up and walk out.
To: Rennes Templar
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Ok..this is the MOST BORING Oscar show ever! I am turning it off and will go fold laundry!
To: what's up
I do see your point. For me, there was a lot in it, engaging.
Carter, though, anything more than a no show in the movie such as being a complete buffoon, inept and in the way is full of agenda.
I lectured my kids on it on the way out of the theater way back in December.
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posted on
02/24/2013 6:34:19 PM PST
by
stanne
To: Rennes Templar
You I came across this video recently "Jimmy Carter: 'Argo' Was Good, But Inaccurate" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrHolUwKn28 The top rated comment on said video caught my eye. "You can say anything about Jimmy Carter, but you absolutely cannot deny that he was our most honest president. He isn't the typical politician who BS's their way out of a crisis to make themselves look good (Reagan-Iran contra, Bush- Iraq)." I'm not actually on expert on his presidency or anything, but "most honest", would there be a slimmer of truth to this claim?
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posted on
02/24/2013 6:53:08 PM PST
by
Ennis85
To: discostu
While I liked the film and felt it fairly damning of Carter, the Carter voiceover at the end, by implication, gives him some credit. This voiceover was gratuitous, and indicative of Affleck’s intention to end the film giving vague kudos to the peanut farmer.
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posted on
02/24/2013 7:28:06 PM PST
by
BlueStateRightist
(Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.)
To: BlueStateRightist
Kind of like when Oliver Stone ended his Nixon movie, by showing Clinton saying glowing words about him at his funeral.
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posted on
02/24/2013 7:31:07 PM PST
by
dfwgator
To: Rennes Templar
While he was President and for some time after he left DC I thought the peanut farmer was a basically well meaning guy who was in *way* over his head.Today I see him as being *far* more despicable than Bill Clinton and almost as despicable as Osama Obama.It's unlikely that I'll outlive Osama but likely that I'll outlive the peanut farmer.If I outlive either of them I'll visit his grave...once.When I arrive my bladder will be full.When I leave,90 seconds later,it will be empty (prostate problems,don't you know).
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posted on
02/24/2013 8:03:41 PM PST
by
Gay State Conservative
("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
To: what's up
Affleck has some sex and drug stories in his past. “They” are currently making his character so strong the stories won’t matter when he runs for senate. And he will win. Stuart Smalley won.
Affleck’s parents were and are far out lefties. They’re among the left who STILL admits they voted for Carter. And Carter was the worse president in history for his stupidity. obama is the worse present because of his hatred for America
I never heard about ARGO until the movie came out. And from what I’ve seen I think I’d find it boring.
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posted on
02/24/2013 8:46:11 PM PST
by
Terry Mross
(How long before America is gone?)
To: Rennes Templar
I worked for the man and his replacement. BZZZZZTTTT! Fail!
During the Carter administration we were weak and hapless. All that changed within months of President Reagan taking office. The morale in the military went up like a rocket ship. They are always trying to re-write history.
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posted on
02/25/2013 12:29:13 AM PST
by
2ndDivisionVet
(I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
To: Rennes Templar
...historians are starting to see our 39th president as a flawed, yet visionary leader. WTF? Which historians???
Everyone knows he should have won a Nobel Peace Prize back in 1979 for negotiating the historic Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty.
Of course, everyone knows that!
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posted on
02/25/2013 5:54:27 AM PST
by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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