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Rand Paul Explains His Surprise Vote For Chuck Hagel (1 of only 4 Republicans to vote for)
Buzzfeed ^ | Feb 26, 2013 | Rosie Gray

Posted on 02/26/2013 3:29:41 PM PST by Corporate Democrat

WASHINGTON — Kentucky Senator Rand Paul said his support for a filibuster against Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel never meant that he would vote against Hagel's confirmation.

"I voted no because I wanted more information and I think that part of what the Senate does is try to get information about the nominees," Paul told reporters in the basement of the Capitol after Hagel's confirmation Tuesday. "I've said all along that I give the president some prerogative in choosing his political appointees."

"There are many things I disagree with Chuck Hagel on, there are many things I disagree with John Kerry on, there are very few things I agree with the president on, but the president gets to choose political appointees," Paul said.

Asked if he ever got the information he wanted about Hagel, Paul said that he hadn't.

Paul implied that he might vote yes on final passage at Monday's New York Meeting.

After weeks of controversy, Hagel was confirmed by a vote of 58-41 on Tuesday.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hagel; hagelsecdef; paul; rand; randpaulhagelvote; senate
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1 posted on 02/26/2013 3:29:47 PM PST by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Perhaps channeling some of his Daddy’s Jew-hatred?

I expected more from Paul.


2 posted on 02/26/2013 3:32:45 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Rand voted yes because his Dad’s libertarian anti-Israel fan club was upset. Hating Israel is a defining issue for these people.


3 posted on 02/26/2013 3:33:32 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Corporate Democrat

I failed to understand his reasoning. Seemed to me Paul just makes his decision based on totally random illogic.

Yes, the president gets to pick appointees, but that doesn’t mean president IS OUR KING, and the confirmation process a rubber stamp to make it look pretty.

Huh, again????


4 posted on 02/26/2013 3:35:50 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Hell, even pasty blue bloods Cornyn and McCain voted Nay against one of their own. Rand Paul voted Yea?! WTF!!!


5 posted on 02/26/2013 3:36:22 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Corporate Democrat

What ever the reason he is done for me. The fork stuck.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 3:37:20 PM PST by Ramonne
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To: Corporate Democrat
Asked if he ever got the information he wanted about Hagel, Paul said that he hadn't.

WTF

7 posted on 02/26/2013 3:37:46 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Longbow1969

Rand Paul: “Some of my best friends are Jews...”


8 posted on 02/26/2013 3:38:12 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Corporate Democrat

May the price of rope rise sharply in DC very soon.
I see you’re new.
Are here to rub salt in our wounds?


9 posted on 02/26/2013 3:38:46 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Corporate Democrat

I had better hopes for young Paul.
Alas, it was not to be.
If he can’t even vote correctly on something this obvious....a simple vote — not requiring any leadership ability or effort....

pray for America! pray pray pray...

(and yes, we need a new Senator next time, too!!!)


10 posted on 02/26/2013 3:39:01 PM PST by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Corporate Democrat
That statement from Rand Paul is less than weak tea, it is nonsensical. It makes him sound like he completely defers to Lord Obama and it will haunt him with conservatives should he have any higher office aspirations.
11 posted on 02/26/2013 3:41:26 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Corporate Democrat
Rand, You have lost my trust...Betrayed again


12 posted on 02/26/2013 3:42:38 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: faithhopecharity

It’s a sad thing, I did hope he would be more consistent. I guess it’s true, Washington D.C. will eventually corrupt anyone we send there to represent us.


13 posted on 02/26/2013 3:42:50 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: Corporate Democrat
Covering mouth and coughing - bullshit!
14 posted on 02/26/2013 3:42:50 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Ramonne
The lesson here is that we can never reasonably expect any one lawmaker to vote to please us 100% of the time. I might have been happier if Paul had not voted for Hagel either but the reality is it probably didn't make one bit of difference.

It is not reasonable to expect this president to have ever nominated a desirable candidate--Obama hates America.

15 posted on 02/26/2013 3:44:43 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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It was no surprise to me at all. I told y’all so a long time ago.


16 posted on 02/26/2013 3:44:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Longbow1969

Rand Paul’s son was arrested ny TSA for several infractions at an airport not long ago. Maybe this makes those fed charges go away.


17 posted on 02/26/2013 3:45:20 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Like father, like son..Ron Paul taught his son well..I guess hating Jews is the new “In” thing..but hey no worries Rand, Louis Farrakhan endorsed Hagel first so your in good company


18 posted on 02/26/2013 3:45:40 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Corporate Democrat
He found this in his driveeway with the pink slip tucked under the windshield wiper?

19 posted on 02/26/2013 3:46:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Corporate Democrat
but the president gets to choose political appointees," Paul said.

So what's the point of the review? This is an obvious cop-out.

Rand is now off my A-list. I'm on the Cruz bandwagon.

20 posted on 02/26/2013 3:46:34 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Corporate Democrat

Why did we expect any differently?

Another phoney baloney politician. I’d really like to know what he and the others were promised. Or were they threatened?


21 posted on 02/26/2013 3:46:34 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I think we all expected more.

Another name we can forget when it comes to 2016


22 posted on 02/26/2013 3:46:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Corporate Democrat

So, I guess that leaves Ted Cruz as the last Conservative in the Senate?


23 posted on 02/26/2013 3:47:26 PM PST by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/bill-warner-islam-1400-years-fear-english-titles/


24 posted on 02/26/2013 3:48:52 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Meno to Rand:

FU*K YOU RINO


25 posted on 02/26/2013 3:49:20 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
The lesson here is that we can never reasonably expect any one lawmaker to vote to please us 100% of the time. I might have been happier if Paul had not voted for Hagel either but the reality is it probably didn't make one bit of difference.

It is not reasonable to expect this president to have ever nominated a desirable candidate--Obama hates America.

Who asked you to go bring logic, common sense, and wisdom into this perfectly good holier than thou pissing contest!!! /sarc

Well done. Well stated.

26 posted on 02/26/2013 3:49:39 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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The vote:
58 - Aye
41 - Nay
, 1 - Not voting

Not Voting:
Lautenberg (D-NJ)

Republicans Voting Aye:
Cochran (R-MS)
Johanns (R-NE)
Paul (R-KY)
Shelby (R-AL)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00024


27 posted on 02/26/2013 3:50:07 PM PST by deport
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To: fatnotlazy
I’d really like to know what he and the others were promised. Or were they threatened?

It's an animus toward the military and Israel.

28 posted on 02/26/2013 3:50:12 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Para-Ord.45

Meno to Rand:

Exercising your “Right” to be stupid ?


29 posted on 02/26/2013 3:50:20 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

oh, THATS intelligent. Now Rand Paul is a RINO? Puh-leeze, the word is meaningless when thrown around like that.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 3:50:48 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: TheThirdRuffian

...expected more but we got the curly cue of ....another insider.... Shame on Rand Paul


31 posted on 02/26/2013 3:52:12 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: Corporate Democrat

don’t trust any of these guys, period


32 posted on 02/26/2013 3:52:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: right way right
Are here to rub salt in our wounds?

Perhaps, he is; probably isn't. But why should "newbies" be forbidden from posting bad news for conservatives?

Is there, in your opinion, a time period during which new members may only post pictures of cute kittens?

33 posted on 02/26/2013 3:53:08 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
"I expected more from Paul."

Not me. I don't trust any of these people any longer. No, I take that back.....maybe Allen West. But he's out of the game and doesn't matter.

34 posted on 02/26/2013 3:53:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Corporate Democrat

I’m pretty shocked at how often I’m hearing this “the President should have the nominees he wants” line of bull. If that were true, there would be no need for confirmation. You never heard anyone saying that when we had a Republican President.


35 posted on 02/26/2013 3:56:11 PM PST by smalltownslick
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thank you, we create unrealistic expectations which results in disappointment. This is not heaven—we go for the best we can get.


37 posted on 02/26/2013 3:57:40 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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To: Corporate Democrat
Surprise!


38 posted on 02/26/2013 3:59:15 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It`s more intelligent than the ignorance that Paul vomited , “I give the president some prerogative in choosing his political appointees.”

So, no matter how incompetent , how ignorant, how anti-semitic he will confirm any buffoon the head anti-semite in the WH nominates.

“You can’t tell me that a man of principle is all of a sudden going to abandon those principles because “the president gets to choose political appointees”. That just doesn’t make sense.”

http://www.therightscoop.com/obama-won-rand-paul-explains-why-he-voted-for-hagel-nomination/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRightScoop+(The+Right+Scoop)

Go ahead, defend this intellectual anencephalic of yours`.


39 posted on 02/26/2013 4:01:22 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: manic4organic

And what will you do when Cruz disappoints, and it will happen. Free Republic has become a giant demolition derby. One strike and you’re out.


40 posted on 02/26/2013 4:01:29 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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To: TADSLOS
Hell, even pasty blue bloods Cornyn and McCain voted Nay against one of their own. Rand Paul voted Yea?! WTF!!!

Where have y'all been for the last few decades? This is the corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" in normal mode. If y'all can't figure out that one almost every issue with controversy the elites GET THEIR PERSON OR BILL PAST. Discussing this crapola about Congress is a waist of bandwidth.And while I'm at it, your stink'in vote means nothing for Prez because these elites have limited you to 2 persons both owned & bought by these scum elites. So if ya don't think this is true just watch when the money runs out in a month & see who all will vote to kick the can down the road.

41 posted on 02/26/2013 4:02:54 PM PST by Digger
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Idiot.


42 posted on 02/26/2013 4:05:06 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: BfloGuy

No, I don’t want any restrictions.
I’m always looking at motivation.
It’s a conservative trait.
No offense if I’m bashed for it.
I wish we could speak more freely!!


43 posted on 02/26/2013 4:07:40 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Best post award!!!!!!!!!


44 posted on 02/26/2013 4:08:31 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
but the president gets to choose political appointees," Paul said. So what's the point of the review? This is an obvious cop-out.

Exactamundo! What a waist of time & all while these scum pols in D.C. party all night. Then if this doesn't frost you, how about Moochelle's travel bills & Barry Bath House exempts his salary from sequester.

45 posted on 02/26/2013 4:08:53 PM PST by Digger
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

>> Free Republic has become a giant demolition derby. One strike and you’re out.

Hyperbole.

This was an easy No vote, and yet he demonstrated the influence of counter-conservatism.

“Rand, if you want a shot at 2016, you realize you’ll need to play ball, don’t you?”


46 posted on 02/26/2013 4:09:55 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

It depends on the Strike - not all Strikes are created equal. Principles - Integrity - Values, oh where hath thee gone???


47 posted on 02/26/2013 4:10:12 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: manic4organic

No worries, sooner or later Cruz will do something that makes him unacceptable too. /s


48 posted on 02/26/2013 4:14:33 PM PST by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

A NO vote was a no brainer. Paul just contradicted his own political philosophy and it is inexplicable.

YOU suspend your intellect to defend the indefensible.

Un-freaking-believable what passes for common sense anymore.


49 posted on 02/26/2013 4:16:38 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: CityCenter

lets see the reason is they provide cover for the other chickens?


50 posted on 02/26/2013 4:17:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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