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Warning: Do Not Enroll (Harvard Doesn't Want Thought)
The Harvard Crimson ^ | 2/28/2013 | THE CRIMSON STAFF

Posted on 03/01/2013 12:46:51 PM PST by nickcarraway

If you might want to insult Harvard down the line, go elsewhere

If you think Harvard is a revolutionary communist hotbed, don’t apply. If you think Harvard is full of “pinheaded” professors, don’t enroll. And if you think Harvard pollutes the minds of its students, don’t walk out of here with a degree—and certainly don’t get two.

You see, lately, there seems to be a pernicious trend of public figures—especially those on the right—falling in love with Harvard just long enough to benefit from its educational resources and, yes, its social prestige, before turning against our school. Just recently, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas affirmed his belief that Harvard Law School was, during his years as a student there, home to a cohort of “Marxists who believed in…overthrowing the United States government.” In November, Fox News pundit and Harvard Kennedy School graduate Bill O’Reilly glibly referred to Harvard professors as “pinheaded” while implying that the Harvard community is morally suspect for its acceptance of Harvard College Munch, a group for students who share an interest in kinky sex. And last April, presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who holds a J.D. and MBA from our fine institution, lambasted President Obama for having spent “too much time at Harvard.”

Such episodes of treachery are apparently attempts to curry favor with the more anti-intellectual members of our body politic. Yet it is finally time that we say enough is enough. We at The Crimson urge anyone who plans on one day scoring political points by maligning Harvard to neither apply, enroll, nor graduate from this fine institution.

If only we could have spoken to a young, wide-eyed Ted Cruz, Mitt Romney, or Bill O’Reilly. We would have assured them that it was okay to be anti-intellectual, and that millions of people around the world do it every day. Although we didn’t share their dread of academia, we would have tried to make them feel comfortable with the lifestyle they were preparing to lead. We would have attempted either to disabuse them of whatever cognitively dissonant impulses gave them the urge to attend Harvard or, at the very least, try to prepare them for the potentially scary environment that awaited them. For one, we would warn them that Harvard has a few liberals. While they may seem strange and foreign to a young conservative, they are almost certainly not secret communists and probably actually less of a threat to the integrity of the United States government than some people back home. Second, we would warn them that education gives people new ideas that they might not have otherwise had. This may make them seem “pinheaded,” or it may even change them a bit, as Mr. Romney suggested about President Obama. But it probably doesn’t make them stupid.

If we could have spoken to these three young men, we could have spared them from the fear and anguish that must come part-and-parcel with seeing oneself as instructed by insurrectionists or buffoons. If we could have spoken to these three men, we would have told them never to come to Cambridge.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: democrats; harvard; harvardcrimson; liberalfascism; liberals; progressives

1 posted on 03/01/2013 12:46:58 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

What do you expect? Dissent is now unpatriotic.


2 posted on 03/01/2013 12:50:55 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

Reminds me of the Muslims who tell us they’ll kill us if we don’t agree Islam is Peace.


3 posted on 03/01/2013 12:52:13 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: nickcarraway

The egomaniacal Boneheads at The Crimson believe their opinions matter to anyone.

They’re wrong.


4 posted on 03/01/2013 12:53:23 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: nickcarraway

The writers could have replaced those 5 paragraphs of fluffy trash with four words: “we don’t tolerate dissent” or “free speech is dead (unless you agree with us)”.


5 posted on 03/01/2013 12:59:40 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: nickcarraway

“Turned against”? Good grief. Harvard’s Crimson staff needs to put on their big girl panties and learn to deal with people not fawning all over them.


6 posted on 03/01/2013 1:02:27 PM PST by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: nickcarraway
"If only we could have spoken to a young, wide-eyed Ted Cruz, Mitt Romney, or Bill O’Reilly."

As opposed to what? Successful older men who have real world experience now and see through your BS, who aren't afraid to call you on it?

Perhaps you should ask yourselves if they haven't got a point in what they say instead of dismissing them outright like the faithful little commies you mostly are.

7 posted on 03/01/2013 1:03:44 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: nickcarraway

Did they sign a “Loyalty Oath”?

Or will that soon be a requirement?


8 posted on 03/01/2013 1:04:35 PM PST by glorgau
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To: nickcarraway

Pinheads, indeed!


9 posted on 03/01/2013 1:06:14 PM PST by Fido969
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To: nickcarraway
Don't send my boy to Harvard, the dying woman said.
Don't send my boy to USC, I'd rather see him dead.
But send my boy to Oxy, it's better than Cornell;
And rather than Pomona, I'd see my boy in...SCRIPPS!
10 posted on 03/01/2013 1:10:47 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: nickcarraway

We cannot let any of our graduates think for themselves, now can we?


11 posted on 03/01/2013 1:14:30 PM PST by GeorgeTex (Obama-Four M President (Mendacious Manchurian Muslim Marxist))
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To: nickcarraway

They’re trying to write an anti-blasphemy law to forbid perceived blasphemy of Harvard. And to think that institution started as a seminary . . .


12 posted on 03/01/2013 1:20:25 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Fiji Hill

Husband is a Naval Academy grad and I talked to a mother whose son is wavering wether to go the Naval Academy route. I advised under this administration to not go. Those in power cannot be trusted with American lives.


13 posted on 03/01/2013 1:22:03 PM PST by Cordio
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To: nickcarraway

I thought it was a lampoon.

Apparently it isn’t.

Harvard has made itself a laughingstock; the quintessential close-minded, ideologues frozen in their own groupthink. If they were Soviets, we’d call them “conservatives”. Think about that one.


14 posted on 03/01/2013 1:31:24 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: nickcarraway

Seems like to me it was the Ivy League types that got us into this derivative mess with the houses that led to the worldwide crash several years ago.


15 posted on 03/01/2013 1:36:48 PM PST by upbeat5
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To: nickcarraway

Living in the Harvard environment really is like going to another planet.


16 posted on 03/01/2013 1:39:33 PM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: Abathar

I think Harvard should be required to practice the Communism they preach. They have a huge endowment. Tax it to help out poor community colleges and universities in underserved areas like Indian Reservations and sparely populated Rocky Mountain and Great Plains states.


17 posted on 03/01/2013 1:43:41 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: nickcarraway

” attempts to curry favor with the more anti-intellectual members of our body politic. “

Typical liberal tactic: if you disagree with them you are labeled a moron followed by a tantrum of name calling.

P.T. Barnum never managed to gather as many clowns in one place as Cambridge Massachusetts.


18 posted on 03/01/2013 1:43:41 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: nickcarraway

Bulldoze Harvard and construct a vast pig sty. America will get more benefit from Harvard that way.


19 posted on 03/01/2013 1:45:23 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: nickcarraway
In 20 years of working at a Harvard Medical School teaching hospital I've had close contact with many Harvard grads...young and old.Graduates of Harvard College...graduates of Harvard Medical School...graduates of both.A noticeable percentage of those individuals,I believe,are decent...if not outstanding...people who are *highly* skilled at what they do.OTOH,I've had no contact that I'm aware of with graduates of Harvard Law School.However I'm still prepared to state that graduates of Harvard Medical School and physicians who've trained at Harvard teaching hospitals have contributed in a noticeably positive way to mankind whereas Harvard Law School has given us Osama Obama...America's first openly Maoist President.

I rest my case.

20 posted on 03/01/2013 1:48:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: nickcarraway

Who’s Bill O’Reilly?


21 posted on 03/01/2013 1:50:50 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Westbrook
Harvard has made itself a laughingstock;

You have an interesting concept of laughinstock. They control the United States, and by extension, the world. There is no one to question their authority.

22 posted on 03/01/2013 1:51:57 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Fiji Hill
My late Dad,who managed many Harvard and MIT grads during his career despite never having attended college (long story) used to say some funny things about Harvard.Things like “you can always tell a Harvard man but you can’t tell him much”..and..”if you can’t go the college,go to Harvard..and..”how do you like your oysters? Raw,raw,raw”.
23 posted on 03/01/2013 1:53:47 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: nickcarraway
I guess this is the famous "ratchet effect" at work.

If a young liberal were working from within to change a conservative church or college or if an older church member or alum bad mouthed such a church or school, if the Crimson cared or noticed it would probably applaud him or her.

But once institutions go liberal, dissent and criticism are discouraged by liberals or progressives.

There's also an absence of nuance here. I'm pretty sure Romney didn't attack all Harvard professors or students or alumni. I'm not sure his comments may not have been at least in part gentle tongue in cheek ribbing. I doubt O'Reilly said all Harvardians were pinheads, and the list of people he has called pinheads includes many non-Harvardians.

But it does look like the Crimeds were able to write a whole article on this topic without mentioning George W. Bush, HBS Class of 1975. A sign that things are changing?

24 posted on 03/01/2013 2:05:00 PM PST by x
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To: nickcarraway

The usual tactic of the left: call your opponents stupid. If you agree with them you are as smart as they are and must also be worthy of lording it over the rest of the world, which is what they would like to do in the end. This is how I believe they bully the college youth into agreeing with their ideas. Who likes to be thought of as dumb?


25 posted on 03/01/2013 2:19:14 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Vigilanteman

The endowment at Harvard has reached critical mass. The investment income from the endowment is sufficient to make the school tuiton free.


26 posted on 03/01/2013 2:26:46 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: nickcarraway

Havard grads will control and rule the NeoEuropa wasteland of the Northeastern states purged from America.


27 posted on 03/01/2013 2:34:46 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Fred Hayek

That huge endowment plus the huge tuition allows Harvard to overpay legions of profs and admins who to donate bunches of it to Democrats and progressive causes.

All part of the “big education” cycle and why Dems are so protective of student lending.


28 posted on 03/01/2013 2:35:03 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nickcarraway

If the people aren’t completely somnambulant, they will eventually see through the sophistry of the marxist cabal at Harvard and other “ivy league” schools.

Those places have outlived their usefulness, especially since they are now applying an ideological litmus test. Shades of Soviet Russia, where Bible believing Christians were not allowed into universities.


29 posted on 03/01/2013 2:37:25 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

Unfortunately, since Ivy League grads control so much of govt and business, they tend to promote and include only their own.


30 posted on 03/01/2013 2:41:47 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nickcarraway

Filthy ivy-league locusts.


31 posted on 03/01/2013 2:45:18 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: nickcarraway

32 posted on 03/01/2013 2:56:35 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: nickcarraway

It is characteristic of young college students everywhere to edit their own words insufficiently, and to over-estimate how distinctive their thoughts and prose are. If you deleted the institution name in this little essay, you would be able to tell it was written by a 19-year-old. But you couldn’t tell if the university was Harvard, Concordia, or the University of North Dakota.


33 posted on 03/01/2013 3:01:19 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Westbrook
Those places have outlived their usefulness, especially since they are now applying an ideological litmus test. Shades of Soviet Russia, where Bible believing Christians were not allowed into universities.

Christian at Harvard feels culture shock
by Chris King, 2005
"Harvard Crimson, the school newspaper ... had editorialized two years earlier that I was unfit to be elected the student body president because of my Christian faith.... cruel fliers had ... been anonymously placed slandering me and my Christian faith as I was locked in a campus election...I could not have done it without a praying family and a God who I found out...was also very much alive in Cambridge..."

34 posted on 03/01/2013 3:59:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If you're too busy to duck hunt or catch fish, you're too busy. --Jase Robertson, Duck Dynasty)
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To: nickcarraway

Gee, I thought an intellectual was a person, who’s trade is, the examination of ideas, (at the least). I will stand corrected if a better explanation is presented, notwithstanding.

An intellectual, therefor should include those who are not usually included; the lumpen masses, lets just say it includes a lot of people who are excluded from the list of “elite intellectuals “ they are just the ordinary thinking sacred human being, and because they are untrained by a university, these very intellectual people are not considered serious, so I will not put too fine a point on that argument. [the-they], are certainly not anti-intellectual, they may be actually more ponderous of real life circumstances than the imagined life of a professional intellectual, [the-they], are certainly more interesting than the intense poseur, that you might chat with on the campus of Brown University, or Harvard. I’m thinking more of the people referred to in the commercial Richards Group Scores With Paul Harvey Ram Truck Commercial During Super Bowl

A critical debate involves the rigors of truth as determined by rational, logical participants, who acknowledge the premise that there is a truth to be discovered. “ideas” , the kernel of the intellectual inquiry is accessible to almost everyone, even those who are not approved to think for themselves. Furthermore, Ideas are the intuitions reified through the algebra of language, experience and tested within (language games), they are not facile proclamations made by the ministry of truth.

And certainly not the province of a princely class of mandarins living in sequestered towers at Harvard University.


35 posted on 03/01/2013 4:46:56 PM PST by notted
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To: notted

Richards Group Scores With Paul Harvey Ram Truck Commercial During Super Bowl

that was supposed to be a link to the commercial. dang computers.


36 posted on 03/01/2013 4:52:41 PM PST by notted
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To: Albion Wilde

> http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2005-07-03/news/CHRISKING_1_christian-faith-harvard-culture-shock

Wow, thanks for that link!!

Places like Harvard will soon become echo chambers where party loyalty is more important than innovation and free thought.

See how well that worked out for the Soviets.


37 posted on 03/01/2013 5:39:04 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook
Places like Harvard will soon become echo chambers where party loyalty is more important than innovation and free thought.

When one of mine, who is very intellectually talented, called and said he was admitted to this and that and the other grad school -- but not Harvard -- my spontaneous response was, "Oh, praise Jesus!"

He didn't know whether to laugh or get mad!

38 posted on 03/02/2013 3:56:48 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If you're too busy to duck hunt or catch fish, you're too busy. --Jase Robertson, Duck Dynasty)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Yep, I’m a pacifist and I’ll beat the hell out of anybody who says otherwise.


39 posted on 03/02/2013 6:24:53 PM PST by RipSawyer
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