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To: Nachum

Hoping Israel has dirt on Obama life that illustrates he’s a moslem or worse, not eligible to be president.


13 posted on 03/05/2013 7:46:42 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
Hoping Israel has dirt on Obama life that illustrates he’s a moslem or worse, not eligible to be president.

Oh, they know how to play hardball politics in Israel. I would bet you 10 cents that there is a team of Israelis working overtime to find something on Obamatron.

14 posted on 03/05/2013 7:53:20 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: morphing libertarian
"Hoping Israel has dirt on Obama life that illustrates he’s a moslem or worse, not eligible to be president."

Since you are a newcomer "morphing", you may have missed some of the truths which have appeared to make no difference in Obama’s tenure, truths with which many in Israel are quite familiar, and which they realize are of little value to a nation that has suppressed its Constitution, and whose Chief Executive has honestly declared the Constitution a dated and inadequate basis for our government, a statement of "negative liberties" where he wants a new bill of rights to confer positive liberties.

Every US Senator signed agreement with Senator Leahy and Judge Michael Chertoff in 2008 when the dialog, from the Senate Judiciary Committee Hearings on Senate Resolution 511, sponsored by Obama campaign chair Clare McCaskill, Leahy, Obama, Clinton, Webb, and one other senator: “My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.” Obama signed agreement, and has never been asked to reconcile his having been born an alien, to an alien father.

This was the second bill sponsored by Democrats from the Obama Campaign committee to appear in early 2008, in a frantic effort to squelch questions about eligibility, since Obama was clearly ineligible. Their strategy, a clever one, was to pave the way for McCain, whose ineligibility had been proved over eight years of hearings and legal briefs. With McCain running no Republican dared raise the eligibility issue, but there was sure lots of analysis in the years leading up to 2008.

Without digging too deeply, Barack correctly described himself, albeit using constitutional legal definitions most had never heard of, as a naturalized citizen. There are but two classes of US citizen, natural-born, and natural. Barack, on his own web site, explained that because his father was British, he, Barack, was born a British subject. He was naturalized by the 14th Amendment, the same amendment created to make slaves into citizens. Slaves, though mostly born on our soil, could not be made “natural born citizens” because their parents weren't citizens. After the 14th Amendment, the children of naturalized slaves were natural born citizen, eligible to become president. The first generation naturalized for having been born on our soil were called, the term used by Barack, "Native-born citizens of the US." Barack said “I am a native-born citizen of the US”, the term used in the 14th Amendment. Barry was presumably born in Hawaii, though there are legitimate questions about the legality of the documents he provided.

We have dozens of Supreme Court cases, including decisions by five Chief Justices, in which the definition has been quoted, and at least one case in which that definition was necessary to the decision, making the definition a precedent. We were gullible and ignorant when power brokers played their several hands to get Obama into office. Too few, and I count myself, understood the misdirection of claiming that “Because natural born citizenship is not defined in the Constitution, we turn to current legal practice.” What some realized, and much credit is due attorneys Leo Donofrio and Mario Apuzzo, and a little to Mark Levin, whose Liberty and Tyranny quotes Madison explaining this fact, the Constitution does not contain definitions - by design. For the meaning of the Constitution, based upon "eternal truths" to be understood eternally, words and terms must be interpreted using the common language and common law of its framers. Chief Justices John Jay, John Marshall, Morrison Waite, Charles Evans Hughes, and the author of the 14th Amendment, judge and congressman John Bingham, all told us that to be natural born is to be born on our soil of parents who were its citizens. That definition could be reinterpreted, even with precedent, since the Supreme Court is not bound by precedent, but the definition has never been reinterpreted, appearing as recently as the 1939 case Perkins v. Elg.

Israelis, many of them, know our law, but clearly, too few in our nation have knowledge, or care, for ineligibility to be important. Whether or not they have succumbed to Alinsky technique of ridicule, being called "Birthers", can only be guessed. Eligibility was of critical importance to our framers, and remains important to our legislators; John Conyers made two attempt to amend Article II Section 1 between 2003 and 2006, probably to make Obama eligible; Orren Hatch tried to amend it in 2002 to make Schwarzenegger eligible. There have been at least twenty six attempts to amend it. None has passed out of Congress.

The Obama/McCaskill-sponsored law, SB 2678 in February of 2008, would have to have evolved into an amendment to have legal effect. It was called the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’. It was another of the Obama campaign to pave the way for McCain to run, somewhat ironic since it was Democrat lawyers who explored and proved McCain's ineligibility. Now he was useful. It is impossible to know whether there was a deal, beyond McCain's understandable feeling of entitlement. His ineligibility was an unfortunate oversight when Congress failed to incorporate the Panama Canal Zone before he was born; incorporation came in 1937, a year late.

When the Obama/McCaskill bill failed to pass, we will never know whether it was "sound and fury", or perhaps by design, since Obama/McCaskill specified ‘military families’, but some in the military join to become citizens, and are not necessarily so while serving. That would have implied an even stronger amendment making the children of non-citizens natural born citizens when case law, Wong Kim Ark, specifically made Wong Kim, born to "domiciled" Chinese parents in San Francisco, a citizen, but not a natural born citizen. In principle, a special interpretation seems warranted, but that is not the law, and SB 2678 failed to pass.

The Israelis undoubtedly know that Obama’s education was funded by the Saudis. It was no secret to our media, but an issue no one would talk about. A charismatic and remarkable attorney, Percy Sutton, one of the original pilots for the “Colored Army Air Corp” in WWII, a self-made attorney, who become principal counsel to Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, The Muslim Brotherhood, defended Charles Rangel and many others, and was President of the Manhattan Borough for a decade, described quite honestly, and proudly the help he provided Khalid al-Mansour in 1986 with getting Barry into Harvard Law. Al-Mansour, formerly Don Warden, a founder of the Black Panthers, and also a self-made success, graduating from Berkeley's Boalt Hall, had been a principal counsel to the Saudi Family for at least ten years by then, and was good friends with Vernon Jarrett, Valerie's father-in-law, who wrote a Chicago Trib pump piece about Wahhabi funding of disadvantaged black and Hispanic youths, with initial funding at twenty million dollars. Al-Mansour had previously formed a law firm with Prince Alwhaleed bin-Talal, whose MBA came from U of New Hampshire.

Israelis certainly would have followed the subject of Bin-Talal’s patronage since bin-Talal not only owns major shares in companies strongly connected to Israel like Cisco, Oracle, Siemens, AMD, Murdock's News Corp which owns Fox News and The WSJ, Citibank, AIG, ..., but donated twenty million to Harvard just before Obama’s acceptance, and later founded the “Alwaleed bin-Talal Center for Islamic Studies”, the largest branch of Harvard Divinity School, but also has large investments in Israeli businesses. Israel certainly knows who Obama is, even if few in the nation he presumably governs do, but the fact that Americans appear not to care would make exposure by recognized figures in the Israeli government pointless, and perhaps counterproductive.

The Saudis have no capability of defending themselves from Shia Iran. Their support, with enormous aid from Obama's military and State Department (can you say Benghazi?), is attempting to coalesce Egypt, Libya, Syria, eventually Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey, into a buffer around Iran. Under many layers of subterfuge it may be that Israel is the most important ally to the Saudi's, and by implication, in spite of his vocal anti-Semitism, to their protégé in our White House. Most in the US did not know that Dubai Ports, which we prevented from managing our domestic ports, was the largest single destination for Israeli ships. The Middle East is a complicated problem, an understanding of which is of existential importance to Israel. That Obama was created for their purposes is only a secret to US citizens. Whether he will be useful to them, as he cripples our economy, remains to be seen.

26 posted on 03/05/2013 11:52:42 PM PST by Spaulding
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