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To: ravager

I am in business in Nashville and my family is minority shareholder in two local bank startups and I have on occasion particpated in board review as the number 4 shareholder in one of banks.

That is how I know that there is problem lending to Indians in Nashville.

Particularly for interstate exit motels in Wilson, Putnam, Rutherford and Montgomery counties.

Are you Indian or just don’t cotton to generalizations about minorities even if true.

If it’s the latter then maybe Eaker was right, you are on the wrong forum.

I bet you don’t work so hard to deflect unsavory generalizations even if true about hillbillies and rednecks now do you?

I refuse to submit and not acknowledge problem issues with minorities when I see it.

here’s another one...Indians voted mostly for Obama..almost 70%

so why do conservatives like Mark Levin even clamour so hard for more to come and strengthen the Democrat gene pool

I’ll tell you why...like you their ideology is often rooted in minority redress and victimhood...Indians even though most I know do pretty well..see themselves as minorities with darker skin and victims of a GOP opposed to minorities and unrestrained immigration...especially illegal immigration...even though the GOP is largely pro amnesty at the top

and so they vote based on a media driven perception of what they are owed even though they just got here relatively speaking

the third world is going to overtake the US ...primarily from Mexico..and it will be our ruin...they will recreate here what they left to get away from and the dems and GOP sissies will help them...they already are

and the irony is that Mexican campesinos like blacks will view Indians with the same glint towards Indians as they do native Whites...resentment towards a power structure that has oppressed them and owes then...a peoples that in their eyes are “haves”

so were I Indian I might try to figure out why I am on the wrong side


56 posted on 03/13/2013 7:55:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy
So you are a shareholder at a local bank and that's your claim to your knowledge about Indians defaulting on loans. No offense but I honestly take that with a large grains of salt. To me that doesn't really count as a source. And yes I am very much of Indian ethnicity and I also have problems with generalizations in general, be they made on minority or the majority. So you might want to ping Eaker to let him know he was right.

Firstly I can guarantee that you can't tell if they are Indians.... or Pakistanis, Bangladeshis,Sri Lankans or Guyanese Indians,Fiji Indians or something else altogether. Like most Americans I would assume you go by the general rule if they look like Indians, quack like Indians they must all be Indians.

Defaulting on loans is not really a trait unique to Indians. How many housing, business or property repossession or foreclosures happened in the US in the last few years? Plenty. And I hardly know any Indian whose property or business got repossessed on account of default. And you can probably count the total number of Indians living in the south in one hand. There are far more Indians living on the east coast and West coast. Indians are disproportionately represented in the motel and gas station industry (just like IT industry or medical industry) and of course there will be plenty of bad apples. But i hardly believe they all worked their way up there by defaulting on loan (or cheating in exams). There is a lot of BS some white people like to peddle about Indians on the Internet.

As for Indians voting for Democrats, that's a whole new can of worms you opened right there. Well this time around you can actually thank Evangelicals who stayed home, didn't show up at the voting booth and passively voted for Obama. They couldn't get themselves to vote for a Mormon Romney. Kinda hard to stick the blame on the Indians who are hardly 1% of America when a Majority of Whites and Christians voted for Obama.

And here is a little more tidbit you missed out with your generalizations. Indians are the newest minority to US and live mostly in the big cities on the east and west coast. Being a new minority they haven't really integrated deeper into middle America or red America unlike other minorities. Right now they vote like anyone else living in the blue states.

Majority Indians (who are here as immigrants fresh off boat) are either on H-1 work visa, student visa, dependent visa, business visa or green card.....none of them are eligible to vote until they become “a citizen”. Its mostly the Indians born and raised in the US the Ivy league educated “Obama voting Indians”. You need to make a distinction between immigrant Indians and “born and raised” Indian Americans. The latter may look like Indians but they quack like liberal Americans. And Indians in general take a bad name for these “born and raised” Indian Americans. Otherwise if you know anything about India...... Bush was WAY more popular then Obama is or will ever be.

And lastly I put the blame squarely on conservatives and their leadership. Quite honestly they are not Indian friendly. Conservatives couldn't get themselves to vote a White American mormon, what chances do you think a brown skinned Hindu might have of being loved by conservatives. You may deny it as much as you like but that is the reality. And the opinions expressed on Indian threads are very much proof of that.

57 posted on 03/13/2013 10:31:55 AM PDT by ravager (I)
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To: wardaddy
“blacks will view Indians with the same glint towards Indians as they do native Whites”

Well Indians never had much historical or cultural contact with Mexicans. However ironically Indians were brought to the West Indies and the African continent as “slaves” or bonded laborers to build rail roads and work on plantations. And then Indian fought for African independence. Gandhi began his struggle not in India but in South Africa. And then Idi Amin cleansed out a large population of Indians from Uganda. So I dont really know how Indians could be view on par with White in power structure.

“like you their ideology is often rooted in minority redress and victimhood...Indians even though most I know do pretty well..see themselves as minorities with darker skin and victims of a GOP opposed to minorities and unrestrained immigration...especially illegal immigration”

My ideology is not “rooted in minority redress and victimhood”. Speak for yourself. Indians coming here right off the boat dont have much idea about Democracts or GOP or what any of them stand for. Indians rooted in victimhood is purely a construct of your own imagination. Victimhood against what exactly?

58 posted on 03/13/2013 12:46:51 PM PDT by ravager (I)
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