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Marijuana: A Gift of the Left to America’s Youth: CO and WA already having bad consequences
National Review ^ | 03/12/2013 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 03/12/2013 6:54:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Denver television station CBS4 reports that Colorado has seen a sharp spike in marijuana use among teenagers since voters passed Amendment 64 last November, legalizing recreational use of the drug. As described in The Economist, along with a Washington State measure also legalizing marijuana, Amendment 64 is “an electoral first not only for America but for the world.”

That means two American states are to the left of the Scandinavian countries, Holland, and every other liberal country regarding marijuana.

CBS4 quotes a number of local high-school students:

“I’ve seen a lot more people just walking down the street smoking (joints),” high-school student Irie Johnson said.

“In high school it has kind of gotten out of hand,” student Alaina Tanenbaum said.

According to the CBS4 report, based in part on data from a local drug-testing lab: “Experts say the test results show that children are getting higher than ever with alarming levels of THC, marijuana’s active ingredient, in their bodies.”

The massive increase in both the number of users and the amount of marijuana used by young people is precisely what I and many others predicted.

It was easy to foresee.

When something desirable is made easier to obtain, more people will obtain it. It is difficult to imagine an exception to this commonsense observation.

So legalizing marijuana is foolish because it leads to far more use of the drug and the availability of ever more potent forms. But the foolishness doesn’t end there. Equally foolish is that as a society we have made peace with marijuana while making war on tobacco. This has been a classic example of upside-down thinking; and we are reaping exactly what we have sown. We have produced a generation of young Americans who would never put a cigarette or cigar near their lips, but who increasingly get high on pot.

Yes, tobacco — specifically cigarettes — kills and marijuana doesn’t. But, if you’ll forgive the ultimate political incorrectness, young people would do much better in life if they smoked tobacco rather than weed.

First, tobacco doesn’t kill young people. When it kills, it generally kills much older adult people. Moreover, according to a recent issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, if you stop smoking cigarettes by age 44, you will lose only one more year of life than a person who has never smoked.

Second, regular pot smokers increasingly tune out of life, becoming what are known as potheads, or, to put it bluntly, losers.

Third, as noted in the CBS4 report, “new studies that have been published say the risk of a car accident increases two-fold after someone consumes pot.” In other words, innocent human beings — sometimes whole families — are more likely to be maimed, paralyzed, and killed by pot smokers than by cigarette smokers.

For myriad reasons, then, I would far prefer my teenager indulge in cigarettes — not to mention cigars — than pot. Anyone who thinks that pot is less harmful to a teenager than tobacco is fooling himself — and his teenager.

If this is not obvious, ponder these questions: Would you rather your airplane pilot smoke pot or tobacco while flying? How would Britain have fared in World War II if Winston Churchill had smoked pot instead of cigars?

In terms of the effects of tobacco and pot on the smoker while smoking, there is simply no comparison between pot and tobacco.

What the Left has done to America’s youth in the last 40 or so years is so damaging as to be unforgiveable. They have ruined public-school education; left them with so much debt that they will likely be the first American generation to live in a fashion materially inferior to that of their parents; and robbed their innocence with sex-education classes, now beginning in kindergarten in Chicago and elsewhere. Now they are making marijuana available to more kids and in greater potency than ever before.

But they have left them with higher self-esteem.

— Dennis Prager is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host and columnist.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: cannabis; colorado; culturerot; drugs; drugwar; marijuana; potheads; prager; warondrugs; washington; wod; wodlist; wosd
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1 posted on 03/12/2013 6:54:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not another pot thread. Where is head slap guy when you need him?


2 posted on 03/12/2013 7:00:18 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

You’ve got to balance these things. The Drug War has been an absolute disaster for personal liberty. Swat raids, civil forfeiture, disproportionately applied penalties, enrichment of violent drug peddling gangs, destabilization of Mexico, volcanoes, global warming... Drug warriors, let it go.


3 posted on 03/12/2013 7:05:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

Ain’t it wonderful how nobody is telling anyone what they can put into their own bodies?


4 posted on 03/12/2013 7:06:39 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: SeekAndFind

What the hell did they expect.

If you made heroin legal you would have nw junkies by the thousands in thirty days.

Make Marijuana legal and certainly people will start smoking it.


5 posted on 03/12/2013 7:07:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

“Yes, tobacco — specifically cigarettes — kills and marijuana doesn’t. “

You are still smoking.


6 posted on 03/12/2013 7:08:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If it's not putting Pregnant Women in Combat, Marrying Gay's in the Military, putting the Blood of the Innocents upon us all (Obamacare), now it's foisting more drugs upon our youth.

Just more wasted lives, turmoil and destruction courteousy of the Progressive/Liberal Left.

The real problem is this kind of immorality is going around the world. Since the Lord has dealt with such in the past - Babel, Flood of Noah, the Fall of the Roman Empire - What will it be next?

7 posted on 03/12/2013 7:08:11 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: SeekAndFind

I love these satire articles.


8 posted on 03/12/2013 7:09:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Venturer

When they did away with alcohol prohibition, did they have alcohol addicts spike up quickly as well?

I don’t really know the answer, but I sure want to know because there are similarities here.


9 posted on 03/12/2013 7:09:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: UCANSEE2

RE: I love these satire articles.

Dennis Prager, as far as I know, does not do satire.


10 posted on 03/12/2013 7:09:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Resolute Conservative
Not this shit again photo not_this_shit_again1.jpg
11 posted on 03/12/2013 7:09:57 AM PDT by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: SeekAndFind

No wonder Colorado is enacting so many gun control laws.


12 posted on 03/12/2013 7:09:57 AM PDT by sport
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To: SeekAndFind

Lots of people like to complain about the erosion of civil liberties, but what’s going to happen if the number of addicts grows exponentially?

Junkies don’t function in society, they don’t parent, produce economic output at the same level as people who aren’t addicts.

So who fills in the gap from the failure of personal responsibility? The State.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 7:10:24 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Venturer

“Make Marijuana legal and certainly people will start smoking it.”

I believe this is true. I have never smoked pot, however I’m sure I would have had it been legal.


14 posted on 03/12/2013 7:10:25 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they aren’t committing violent crimes or causing accidents, who cares? Let the moron potheads alone.


15 posted on 03/12/2013 7:11:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Venturer

my sister started smoking weed, ten wanted the bigger thing and went to cok, speed, LSD and then heroin.

While the elft is wanting to give guns out to their dope heads they are wanting to ban guns.

Hippie life for CO and WA.

Makes me laugh that they want to charge tax on it now and yet the drug dealer they were supposed to get rid of won;t be charging tax.

Now the feds don;t know want to do because it violates federal law but the left still wants to hand out their drugs .

Hopefully common sense will prevail in a couple of years


16 posted on 03/12/2013 7:11:43 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: sr4402

“the Fall of the Roman Empire”

Where did you get that?


17 posted on 03/12/2013 7:12:09 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: SeekAndFind
The legalization of marijuana and it's increasing use by youth is what the Obama Admin wants. Marijuana takes your ambition away. It makes our youth more pliant to the wishes of those who will soon decree every aspect of our lives. And those youth will be right behind them screaming that WE are the ones that want to take away their ‘rights’. Obama’s plan is working out quite nicely for him and his minions. Soon we will be a nation of many fewer producers and many more ‘parasites’. But when the ‘parasites’ awaken to find their lives completely controlled by ‘The Won’ there will be no one left to fight him. Heartbreaking for our once great country.
18 posted on 03/12/2013 7:12:43 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Resolute Conservative

It’s a two-fer.
Pot bad and Tobacco Good.


19 posted on 03/12/2013 7:13:43 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: originalbuckeye
The legalization of marijuana and it's increasing use by youth is what the Obama Admin wants. Marijuana takes your ambition away.

Our modern-day version of "Opium Dens"....ironically now China is the one that stands to gain.

20 posted on 03/12/2013 7:15:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: count-your-change

how nobody is telling anyone what they can put into their own bodies?

Except for the amount of soda:-)


21 posted on 03/12/2013 7:18:13 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: SeekAndFind

I love Prager, but I’d say his logic is flawed here. Unless you believe government should rule over adults in some ersatz parental manner and govern as if the sum total of all citizens were the equivalent of adolescents, how could this argument hold water?


22 posted on 03/12/2013 7:19:54 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: SeekAndFind

those nasty freedomses ... we hates ‘em


23 posted on 03/12/2013 7:21:04 AM PDT by fnord (My life is like the movie Willard, except with hummingbirds)
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To: babygene
“the Fall of the Roman Empire” Where did you get that?

http://www.shortercatechism.com/resources/wsc/wsc_007.html

Westminster Shorter Catechism
Question 7

Q: What are the decrees of God?
A: The decrees of God are, his eternal purpose, according to the counsel of his will, whereby, for his own glory, he hath foreordained whatsoever comes to pass.

God foreordained it and since immorality is rampant again what has He in store next for this world?

24 posted on 03/12/2013 7:21:42 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like my high school. I swear Cheech and Chong were doing all of their research there. Wish I could bring those kids here and show them all of the marginally employed fifty-something dishwashers and cab drivers I know as a result.


25 posted on 03/12/2013 7:22:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Shadow44

Duh! That’s precisely what this is about; that and crippling whatever might be left of the middle class; they’ll simply drop out altogether.


26 posted on 03/12/2013 7:22:42 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: dfwgator

Reminds me of how the Soviets made sure everyone had access to Vodka as to drink the misery away. (No, I am not for banning booze.)


27 posted on 03/12/2013 7:23:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

should the Govt not tell anyone what they should put in their body, ?

I think that is what you;re saying and that the authors logic is flawed and thus you probably disagree with him so if that is your view then should the Govt just get out of the drug business and just let anyone take heroin, coke, LSD?

After all the liberties taken away , liberals, and Govt out of our bodies is what I hear about killing babies, off junkies so they can take their drugs and get high.

If you say yes then should we also let anyone marry anyone, let kids take the drugs and have sex or of you d want an age limit for sex and drugs then should Govt decide on that or is it a free for all country and anarchy ?


28 posted on 03/12/2013 7:24:00 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: mnehring

One of the reasons Khrushchev was removed was because of the disastrous wheat harvests that led to a shortage in Vodka.


29 posted on 03/12/2013 7:24:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: onona

actually I am happy Seek posted this as some might not have seen this or not really had a say on it.


30 posted on 03/12/2013 7:24:50 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

From Steve Martin on SNL:

I mentioned that, earlier in the show, a drug joke - and I hate to do that, because it creates a mess, and I’m not into drugs any more. I quit completely, and I hate people who are still into it. Well.. I do take one drug now - for fun - and, maybe you’ve heard of it, it’s a new thing, I don’t know if you have or not. It’s a new thing, it makes you small. [ indicates size with fingers ] About this big. And, you know, I’ll be home, sitting with my friends, and, uh.. we’ll be sitting around, and somebody will say, “Heeeyyy.. let’s get small!” So, you know, we get small, and uh.. the only bad thing is if some tall people come over. You’re walking around going, “Ah hahaha..!” Now, I know I shouldn’t get small when I’m driving.. but I was driving around the other day, and I said, “What the heck?” You know? So I’m driving like.. [ extends arms high in the air like he’s reaching up to a giant steering wheel ] And, uh.. a cop pulls me over. And he makes me get out, he looks at me and he says, “Heyyy.. are you small”? I said, “No-o-o! I’m not!” He said, “Well, I’m gonna have to measure you.” They have this little test they give you - they give you a balloon.. and if you can get inside of it, they know you’re small. Now, I’ve already talked it over with the cast - they’ve been working all week, it’s a tough thing to do, come out here live. Immediately after the show, we’re all gonna go out.. and get really small!


31 posted on 03/12/2013 7:25:26 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: SeekAndFind
Dennis Prager, as far as I know, does not do satire.

Well... if this is supposed to be a serious debate on the Issue, his only claim of 'bad consequences' is that pot smokers don't smoke cigarettes.

Hence... satire.

32 posted on 03/12/2013 7:26:06 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: mnehring

tell the druggies that they have a right to take their drugs and get high, then get their votes and without even knowing it the junkies and dope smokers rely on one party to protect their getting high so called right.

Meanwhile the 2nd amendment is being stripped or looking to be stripped and I guarantee that some of those junkies which take their drugs and want it legal whilst crying that it;s their liberties being taken away and Govt shouldn;t tell me what to put in my body would have also voted for the party which wants to ban guns but give them drugs.


33 posted on 03/12/2013 7:29:06 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
Hopefully common sense will prevail in couple of years.

Historically, that almost never happens.

34 posted on 03/12/2013 7:29:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

not with the left handing out so called rights to homosexuals, cross dressers, turd munchers, druggies and if we ever got common sense then these people will think that their rights , so called rights have been stripped


35 posted on 03/12/2013 7:31:54 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: VRWCmember

I’m not sure I’d go that far at all.

I will admit that I do not understand the demonization of tobacco smoking vs the acceptance of marijuana smoking.

If you can’t stand second hand tobacco smoke, how is second hand mj smoke going to be any better?

I’m waiting for the first claims of failed drug tests from second hand mj smoke.

Smoke is bad for your lungs, period. Tobacco, campfire, house fire, or marijuana.

We have spent years and billions on anti-smoking campaigns.

I think with the legalization of marijuana, you will also see an uptick in cigarette smoking. Kids will just see it all as smoking.

Heck, that’s the way I see it, except one gets you high and loses you your job.


36 posted on 03/12/2013 7:32:17 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: manc
ten wanted the bigger thing and went to cok

...uh.... you really need to get a handle on this 'typing' thing. One could misconstrue that sentence all too easily.

37 posted on 03/12/2013 7:32:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Bitsy

I was just about to say, with the war on soda and junk food, it is almost a cruelty to legitimize something that makes you crave soda and junk food...

Quite a conumdrum; I can legally inflict cottonmouth and the munchies on myself, but then it is illegal to answer the call of the cannibinols. That’s just mean.


38 posted on 03/12/2013 7:33:02 AM PDT by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: SeekAndFind
When they did away with alcohol prohibition, did they have alcohol addicts spike up quickly as well?

Well... every QUICK TRIP has liquor.

39 posted on 03/12/2013 7:34:12 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

my point taking drugs


40 posted on 03/12/2013 7:34:16 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Marijuana should remain illegal but should only merit a fine – not any jail time. It’s the only way the state can get money from pot because once it’s legal, people will grow it for free (not to mention all the money the state saves from court costs and incarceration). Driving under the influence of marijuana should merit the same penalties as alcohol.


41 posted on 03/12/2013 7:36:04 AM PDT by Heartlander (Scientists animated by the purpose of proving that they are purposeless are interesting to study)
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To: sr4402
God foreordained it and since immorality is rampant again what has He in store next for this world?

Immorality has been rampant since the day Noah stepped off the boat.

42 posted on 03/12/2013 7:36:58 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: originalbuckeye
I tend to agree with you marijuana seems to create a passivity allowing others to govern.

By the way I love the pot heads alleged "Freedom" and failure to indulge in "group think." No subgroup thinks and acts in a more uniform manner than the pot smoker. Their words and deeds are the most predictable of all.

43 posted on 03/12/2013 7:37:08 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: manc
I think that is what you;re saying and that the authors logic is flawed and thus you probably disagree with him so if that is your view then should the Govt just get out of the drug business and just let anyone take heroin, coke, LSD?

I think if the state can make a compelling argument as to regulating a substance like a drug, then let them make it, and if it falls under their enumerated powers to regulate it, then regulate it. I have no problem with that notion, though we could debate the efficacy of regulating a substance / turning the substance into valuable contraband.

The problem, however, with most pro-prohibition arguments for pot is that in their zeal to push their cause, the pro-pot-prohibitors typically conflate - very, very, very greatly - the "societal dangers" of pot by attributing the societal dangers of other, more pernicious drugs (like your heroin, coke, LSD from above) to marijuana as well. Or else they attribute other things that are bad or harmful - say, a car crash that kills young kids - to pot, because it's logically possible to drive a car while stoned.

The real world doesn't work that way, you see. You can't factor out an extremely complex societal equation with all sorts of unpredictable, dependent variables in it to, say, "if you're for legalizing pot, you're also for kids killing themselves in massive car accidents while driving stoned."

44 posted on 03/12/2013 7:37:10 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: ltc8k6

second hand drug smoking is just as bad.

My sister ended up on drugs, Heroin after starting at weed but she used to smoke the crap in her house and she had one girl at that time in the bedroom.

That poor girl now is slower, struggles in school and the Docs have said that it was because of all the second hand drugs she was breathing in.

Lets face it the druggies will argue all sorts, Govt out of my body, to liberties being taken away but in the end they want to get high,
THAT;S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT and the left wants them high.


45 posted on 03/12/2013 7:37:13 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

It must be different amongst yankees but this fixation on free republic about pot and leftists is alien to me in 2013 in Dixie

In 1969 one might have had a point....Marihuana...this is the age according to Uncle Jerry
However today i know scores of pot smokers and all i know are conservatives or at least not leftists

I agree chronic weed is bad but responsible use is much ado about not much


46 posted on 03/12/2013 7:38:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Shadow44

Addicts?

Have you ever smoked pot?

Its not like that


47 posted on 03/12/2013 7:40:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: SeekAndFind

Same kids who already smoked, now just being more open about it. Because they can.

Whoop dee doo.


48 posted on 03/12/2013 7:41:06 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: Venturer

Would you seriously try heroin simply because it became legal? How many people do you know who would?


49 posted on 03/12/2013 7:41:34 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
No subgroup thinks and acts in a more uniform manner than the pot smoker. Their words and deeds are the most predictable of all.

How so?

50 posted on 03/12/2013 7:41:51 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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