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To: papertyger
Because they recognize the majority of voters are women; and women prize security more than liberty.

With all due respect, the above is not only an unquantifiable supposition, but absolute empty sentimentalism.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

When people within a free society give over their liberty to those charged with representing those people, soas to gain "security" in exchange, they have neither security or liberty. Look at what is happening all around this country. Bloomingidiot is creating the largest nanny city ever seen. Chicago and Detroit, under the complete control of people who have nearly complete control over the political process (and who are extremely liberal) render edicts and mandates at will. The San Francisco bay area and much of Southern Cal are owned by liberals, and they are on a banning frenzie to the point where people are becoming poisoned by their own food as a result of the ill-conceived plastic bag ban. Hell, the entire state of California is under the complete control of the DemocRAT party, and they are just getting started with their nanny state ideology. When the "State" can make up any rules it deems is in YOUR best interest in order to "protect" you from yourself, you DO NOT HAVE ANY LIBERTY. This isn't an unquantifiable supposition. These are realities that are happening NOW in this nation.

People who bury their head in the sand and believe that allowing this government to provide for their security deserve what is coming.

38 posted on 03/12/2013 8:27:31 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad
With all due respect, the above is not only an unquantifiable supposition, but absolute empty sentimentalism.

Incorrect. It is not only quantifiable, it is a given by virtue of those institutions and initiatives dedicated to "protecting" women.

I understand you equate "security" with the ability to protect yourself, but the simple fact is the majority of American voters (women) want someone else to protect them.

When the "State" can make up any rules it deems is in YOUR best interest in order to "protect" you from yourself, you DO NOT HAVE ANY LIBERTY.

And this is precisely my point.

What you don't seem to be able to accept is, despite Franklin's dictum, the voting majority has chosen exactly what Franklin warned against.

Keep in mind, our Constitution was written for a country in which women could not vote. As such, their propensity to prize security is not reflected in its goals and aspirations.

Have you never wondered why so many anti-Constitutional initiatives succeed by virtue of political capital, rather than adherence to our founding principles?

In my opinion, our biggest mistake was to give women the vote without modifying the Constitution to make female tools of coercion and aggression as punishable as male tools of same.

39 posted on 03/12/2013 8:59:47 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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