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To: FatherofFive

Please explain the “Jesuits” thing. A liberal sect?

I just know they tend to be more academic.


50 posted on 03/13/2013 12:45:04 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

There is some negative aspects of the Jesuits as well.

Very much into undoing the reformation.


57 posted on 03/13/2013 12:47:50 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: fwdude
Please explain the “Jesuits” thing. A liberal sect?

Nooooo. But I'll let others 'splain.

67 posted on 03/13/2013 12:51:52 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: fwdude
The Jesuits are an academically rigorous order of priests - traditionally they have been missionaries, theologians and university professors.

A standard priest is ordained at 25 after receiving a masters in theology.

Jesuits are typically not ordained until they are 30 or older, and are encouraged to obtain a doctorate in both theology and a secular discipline.

During the 1960s and 1970s, their secular studies radicalized a large number of Jesuits and the order became known for its "progressivism" - the Superior General of the order from 1965-1983 was a liberation theologian who was openly disdainful of John Paul II. The current SG is not much better.

The last three SGs have effectively destroyed the order - their numbers are hollowed out.

74 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:15 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: fwdude
“...Please explain the “Jesuits” thing. A liberal sect?

I just know they tend to be more academic...”

Actually the Jesuits have been kicked out of more countries than you can shake a stick at.

They tend to also be explores and highly political missionaries. The order was founded by a soldier.

Sort of think Mohammad, but Christian. They were known in many circles as the Pope's soldiers and did his dirty work.

The Dominicans and the Jesuits were at the center of the Spanish Inquisition, with the Jesuits being pretty infamous for what they did.

They run and teach at many universities around the world. Some would say in an effort to influence the elite of those countries and shape their policies.

Again, this should be interesting.

91 posted on 03/13/2013 1:00:50 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: fwdude

The Jesuits have a long and mixed history...

The society of Jesus orginated in Spain in the early 1500’s and were one of the driving forces behind the Inquisition, which is now regarded as a pretty dark chapter in the Catholic Church. Considering that Spain was still trying to recover from a 700 year long occupation by the Islamics, it is a little more easy to comprehend the search for and purging of “heretics”. Unfortunately, this also involved the Protetants in Central Europe in the 1500 and 1600’s. The Jesuits were a major political player in Spain and Italy during the 30 Years War and the Reformation.

They also were pretty fervent evangelists and spread the catholic faith throughout the colonies that Spain and Portugal were founding in the 1500’s. The evangelized in may other place, too (Africa, India, China). Their most positive influence was the emphasis on training priests and ministers (they started a lot of schools) and their devotion to personal piety and holiness.


96 posted on 03/13/2013 1:02:09 PM PDT by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: fwdude

St. Ignatius Of Loyola led the Counter-Reformation.

His “Spiritual Exercises” are a masterpiece of Catholic, Jesuit and meditative devotion.

The Jesuits were anything but liberal in their fight against Protestantism.


120 posted on 03/13/2013 1:15:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: fwdude

Jesuits tend to be more into Leftist, social and economic justice causes.
I don’t know exactly what this man stands for, but the Jesuit educational insitutions in this country are really Lefty (Notre Dame, Marquette, Georgetown etc)
We will see.


172 posted on 03/13/2013 1:48:25 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: fwdude

He’ll be the first pope to swear allegiance to himself.


260 posted on 03/13/2013 6:07:27 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: fwdude
Please explain the “Jesuits” thing. A liberal sect?

The Jesuits have lost their way. I was at a Kateri Conference up in Gonzaga University, a Jesuit school, and in their bookstore they had a book, "God - our Father and our Mother'

Seattle University philosophy professors Daniel Dombrowski and Robert Deltete have authored a book entitled A Brief, Liberal, Catholic Defense of Abortion, in which they argue that the unborn child is not "a human person in some morally relevant sense" until very late in pregnancy when "sentience" begins, a term they use to define the capacity to perceive pain. In one part of the book, they go so far as to assert that performing an abortion on a "nonsentient" child is no more troublesome than mowing the lawn. Dombrowski and Deltete also argue that their pro-abortion position is "more compatible with Catholic tradition than the current anti-abortion stance defended by many Catholics and by most Catholic leaders," which rests on a "shaky foundation" and should be "altered or dropped."

A Jesuit Catholic University decides that “domestic partners” should get the same benefits as married couples. Notice that the term of “domestic partner” is used, which might be a local particularity but might also be a clumsy attempt not to say (oh, that word…) “same-sex marriage”.

262 posted on 03/13/2013 6:20:17 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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