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New Pope: No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians
breitbart.com ^ | March 13 2013 | staff

Posted on 03/13/2013 1:57:18 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

New Pope Francis I is a conservative in the mold of his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI and Pope John Paul II. That’s especially true on the issue of abortion, which he called a “death sentence” for the unborn in 2007. “We aren’t in agreement with the death penalty,” he said during that speech, “but in Argentina we have the death penalty. A child conceived by the rape of a mentally ill or retarded woman can be condemned to death.”

In his writings, Francis wrote, “we should commit ourselves to ‘eucharistic coherence,’ that is, we should be conscious that people cannot receive holy communion and at the same time act or speak against the commandments, in particular when abortions, euthanasia, and other serious crimes against life and family are facilitated. This responsibility applies particularly to legislators, governors, and health professionals.”

Francis is also anti-euthanasia: “Today,” he wrote, “elderly people are discarded when, in reality, they are the seat of wisdom of the society. The right to life means allowing people to live and not killing, allowing them to grow, to eat, to be educated, to be healed, and to be permitted to die with dignity.”

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KEYWORDS: catholicpoliticians; conclave; popefrancis; prolifepope; romancatholicism
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To: butterdezillion

Great post. I fully agree with you-—especially about the tax exempt status. There is such a double standard. I frankly don’t see how to separate world views and political beliefs from beliefs about God. It all comes together at some point and any attempt at compartmentalizing is phoney and unnatural. The only people who want God out of politics and everyday life are those who do not want to submit to His authority over all things.


81 posted on 03/13/2013 7:26:43 PM PDT by Faith
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To: fwdude
Short answer: No.

In fact, if you try that little trick, you are guilty of an additional sin called "presumption".

Church already thought of that one.

82 posted on 03/13/2013 8:21:03 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Has Pelosi booked a flight to Rome to set Pope Francis straight on what it means to be a Catholic? She fancies herself, after all, as a fount of Catholic religious wisdom.
83 posted on 03/13/2013 8:27:27 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Ax

We Catholics should never be proud of our religion.

Remember that, but for God’s grace, we could have been atheists or worse.


84 posted on 03/13/2013 8:46:57 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Ping to see how/if he follows through on this.

Yeah, I'll wait and see, too. LOTS of past popes have said the same thing but it seems nobody has the courage or power to effect change at the local level. The Pope may make such a statement as "No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians" and even do so ex cathedra making it officially the truth of the RCC and infallibly so (according to the criteria) but will that mean EVERY bishop and every priest MUST follow it or else? Or else what? We hear all the time about people excommunicating themselves if they don't believe and follow everything they are told to from the Pope, but how many people actually follow through? Shouldn't prominent pro-abortion Catholic politicians be publicly called out on this? Because, until they are and the people see the bite, all it will remain is nothing but bark.

85 posted on 03/13/2013 8:59:32 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: potlatch

He bears some physical resemblance to Rudy Giuliani. Bet their families hail from the same part of Italia.


86 posted on 03/13/2013 9:15:38 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: BarnacleCenturion; wagglebee

How many pro-abort politicians even GO TO CHURCH and receive the sacraments?

Recall that Nancy Pelosi proclaimed that the Pope was wrong on birth control.


87 posted on 03/13/2013 9:15:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Sorry, Patty. No more baby killing fundraisers if you want Mass. Hmmm. Which will she choose?


88 posted on 03/13/2013 9:29:12 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Why limit to politicians? Anyone who approves of killing babies needs the wrath of God.


89 posted on 03/13/2013 9:35:13 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (It only takes one to start hostilities. It takes two to agree to end them.)
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To: Joe Boucher
Just read that joe the drunk biden will lead American deligation to give regards. Hopefully ilPapa tells this abortion supporter to go fish.

Somehow, I just don't see ANY modern Pope doing such an overt and potentially politically outrageous act as publicly snubbing the VP of the United States. If this one sincerely wants to start enacting such restrictions, he probably would have Biden alerted to it BEFORE he gets there so as not to publicly - in front of the entire world - embarrass him (not that he doesn't deserve it). That way, Biden gets the message and he avoids going to the communion rail. Though, it would be a GREAT teaching moment to all the other CINO politicians, it may not be the time or place to make it.

If Biden knew ahead of time that, if he presented himself to the Pope to receive communion he would be denied, he at least would not be able to blame the public humiliation on the Pope. Which is not to say he wouldn't anyway. It's a political hot potato either way. Previous Liberal Catholic politicians have been able to get papal audiences and Vatican entry pretty much anytime they wanted to and it doesn't seem to matter what they get told either. They STILL do what they want once they get back. It will be interesting to see if this new Pope is any different than the last few were in that regard.

90 posted on 03/13/2013 9:56:54 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: butterdezillion
Good for you! We need more people willing to take a stand against the secularization of everything. In reality, ALL issues are moral issues and you sure nailed it by showing how Satan perverts everything that God creates. The lack of discipline in many churches is due to the lack of discipline in individual lives. What happens personally filters up to the collective. Unless those in leadership positions within the church stand up for God's righteous commands, exhibit righteousness in their own lives and those of their families, their faith communities won't be able to. The two members who walked out and the leader who wrongly labeled the topic as "political" are examples of those who demonstrate a lack of discipline in their own lives.

I hope you were able to sit down and discuss this with that leader and he/she was open to hearing it. Our society is in the shape it is right now because too many people either don't care anymore or they are too afraid to take a stand. Such behavior is a death knell for ANY church. Sometimes they need shaking out to get rid of the clingers who come out of obligation instead of a desire to edify each other and worship together in truth. Maybe God put you there for just that reason!

91 posted on 03/13/2013 10:18:04 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: butterdezillion

Excellent point.

I’m very excited about the new Pope.


92 posted on 03/14/2013 1:49:26 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: boatbums

Everything you say is true.
You also know that for too long this look the other way has diluted the Catholic message.


93 posted on 03/14/2013 3:43:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I’ll believe it when I see it...
The Cardinals, Bishops and Parish Priests need to show some gumption and DO IT!


94 posted on 03/14/2013 7:13:39 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: manc

And they recite the Creed as if they follow it!
Hypocrites, ALL!


95 posted on 03/14/2013 7:15:49 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: mware

Loved Cardinal O’Connor...the Navy’s priest at one time.
A truly devoted Prince of the Church...
God continue to bless him.....


96 posted on 03/14/2013 7:19:03 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

My MIL who coems and lives in MA calls herself Catholic , goes to church and yet votes Dem.

I asked her so many times and have many arguments with her about this.
Why do you vote Dem when you are supposed to be against homosexuality,abortion and yet marriage is for a 1 man and a 1 woman, etc.

She goes in a mood, rants as she walks away.

can;t be a Catholic on a Sunday and a Dem for the rest of the week.

I;ve seen at a Catholci church a car wiht obama stickers, pro choice, pro family pro Catholic\\\

The woman must be an idiot.


97 posted on 03/14/2013 7:20:27 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

My RI in-laws same as yours!
All lib dims who consider themselves “Catholic”, especially at baptisms of babies and funerals.
Most of their kids are not practicing or don’t consider themselves “Catholic” anymore. At least they aren’t hypocrites.
The northeast of this country, as a whole, really is screwed up in SO many ways...


98 posted on 03/14/2013 7:26:38 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

I totally agree, I have lived up there and my wife is from up, thankfully we move south to one of the most republcian counties in the state of FL and that is St Johns county where St Augustine is and where the first Christian prayer was ever said in N America.

Catholics up there have lost their way, not all but most and maybe the Pope need to go to NY, Boston, Chicago and mention marriage, abortion etc and that is what Catholics believe and they can;t vote for people which is against their faith.

Course I spoke to the MIL last might and she was telling me how the Boston media is again talking about the child molestation but not mentioning it were homosexuals who did that.
They are bringing up the problems instead of mentioning the good the church has done.
No doubt millions saw the new Pope and the media will go in attack mode


99 posted on 03/14/2013 7:39:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: AnAmericanMother
...if you try that little trick, you are guilty of an additional sin called "presumption".

Church already thought of that one.

A self-policing sin, though. Why does one let sin monitor itself?

100 posted on 03/14/2013 7:44:19 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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