[Syncro]

I think "dear Bear" does quite well with out being burdened with being a Canon lawyer.

"We have had some morally skeevy popes. Seven or eight of them by my count, when I did some intensive reading on it as a teenager. (I wanted to grit my teeth and get all the $#@$#@$# news at once.) I'll tell ya, after the Borgias, most of 'em looked pretty good."

I am not fimilar with the Borgias, but they must have been pretty bad to make all the "skeevy popes" look "pretty good."

Did the Borgias get pleasure when they could hear the screams of their "enemies" being tortured as one pope did?

Did any of them get shot by a jealous husband while commiting adultry with his wife?

[Mrs. Don-o]

I'm sorry I did not write clearly enough. I meant that all the popes that came after the Borgias looked pretty good. (Not that the 7 or 8 skeevy popes before the Borgias looked good.)

We've had a good run of popes recently, by which I mean for a good 350 years. For this I am grateful.