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Rand Paul wins The Washington Times-CPAC 2013 Straw Poll
The Washington Times ^ | 3/16/13 | Sephen Divan and Diane Sherfiinski

Posted on 03/16/2013 2:40:59 PM PDT by advance_copy

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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sounds good to me.


101 posted on 03/16/2013 10:00:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: advance_copy
I hope Rand, Rubio, Palin, Cruz and any other conservatives understand that they need to remain alert ,and be leery of the other democrat party (known as "republicans")- Who will be trying EVERYTHING/Every dirty trick in the book, to make sure that they are NOT nominated in 2016.

I hope they are thinking about how they are going to handle the boat load of BS that's about to be unleashed on them.

Looks like Christy/Bush or Bush/Christy is the chosen ticket for the 2016 Gee-we-don't-know-why-we-lost-again election loss.

Why go for half measures?

McCain/Romney for 2016.

Or McCain/ Christy 2016

Of course the question for conservative candidates is- What are you going to do when you figure out that the party you belong to has no intention of EVER letting you run?

102 posted on 03/16/2013 10:05:53 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: advance_copy

A Ted Cruz/Tom McClintock ticket for ‘16 POTUS would be good, but there are plenty of candidate possibilities from other people who are true conservatives. I, also, like Senator Rand Paul, except for his Libertarian positions on most foreign policy issues-Rand’s major weakness, IMHO. Unfortunately, too many of the other possibilities for ‘16 GOP POTUS practice RINO Republicanism. I curious as to how many CPAC attendees who voted the way that they did knew which of the candidates are for amnesty for illegal immigrants as well as which of the candidates are not for amnesty for illegal immigrants.


103 posted on 03/16/2013 10:16:26 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: advance_copy

Hasn’t Rubio been as flaky as a pastry crust?


104 posted on 03/16/2013 11:39:18 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Ted Cruz I believe was born in Canada!!!


105 posted on 03/17/2013 12:21:21 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: willardwx
This is so great. Paul is now the leader of the conservatives!!

Not while he pushes defacto Amnesty, or as he calls it, "Normalization", or wants to soften the GOP message on the social issues.

That may make him the leader of Libertarians, or even Republicans, but removes him from the conservative category.
106 posted on 03/17/2013 12:24:01 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SunkenCiv

That article you keep posting about Rand Paul is totaly false. Notice that there is not a single quote that matches the outrageous headline. His position on gay marriage is that marriage should be between a man and a woman but it should be removed from the tax code. I don’t know how you can then jump to the conclusion that he is in favor of gay marriage. Your source is just not reliable. The article is hit piece.


107 posted on 03/17/2013 2:23:55 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: SoConPubbie

“That may make him the leader of Libertarians, or even Republicans, but removes him from the conservative category. “

LMAO, if you say so..

/s

Read the article. The largest Conservative Political Action Committee in the country just selected Rand Paul as their guy.


108 posted on 03/17/2013 2:37:57 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: tallyhoe

Oh my, there you people go again.

Born in Canada. Oh my/TO AN AMERICAN MOTHER WHO HAD HER BABY WHILE WORKING IN CANADA.

Ted knows he was born in Canada. Ya think? He also knows more about the Constitution and laws and interpretation of laws than you. Just a tiny bit more...

Hint: you need to do some research, or, do MORE research if you’ve done any.

Then, you might learn that Ted Cruz says he is a natural born citizen and is eligible to run and you might learn WHY that is.


109 posted on 03/17/2013 4:24:49 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

He was virtually tied by Marco Rubio. Then add in all the votes for someone OTHER than Rand Paul, or Rubio for that matter, and you have the truth, instead of fuzzy math. To say he was chosen by them is not mathematically true. He barely edged out another, and the two of them got less than half the votes. Math. Do the math.


110 posted on 03/17/2013 4:28:59 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: willardwx

Have you consulted Ted Cruz about “natural born citizen”?

He might know a little something about it, being a constitutional lawer and all...

I COULD link you to his pronouncements on that, but that would allow you to be lazy so I won’t...


111 posted on 03/17/2013 4:39:22 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Ted Cruz could speak well till he is blue in the face. But the communists who currently run this country and their useful idiots in the MSM will not allow this CANADIAN BORN conservative run for president because of his birthplace. Meanwhile our _resident is a Kenyan born, Indonesia bred MARXIST ALIEN!


112 posted on 03/17/2013 4:52:15 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: txrangerette

He didn’t even put much effort into it and still won it.

This is just the start...


113 posted on 03/17/2013 5:27:57 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: BfloGuy

We have plenty of time to watch and question.

Actually, we don’t. Conservatives need to unify behind a single candidate within the next 12 months.


114 posted on 03/17/2013 5:32:55 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
How’d McCain do?

"GRIDLOCK!!!"


115 posted on 03/17/2013 5:43:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: tallyhoe

Sean Hannity Declares Canadian-Born Ted Cruz Eligible To Be President


116 posted on 03/17/2013 5:44:35 AM PDT by deport
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To: JohnPDuncan

I’m not belittling it.

I’m just not letting it be overstated.

But please, you’re obviously here to pound and pound and pound for the Pauls.

I’m not going to waste my time replying over and over to someone who is here for that purpose.

I weigh in now and again with what I believe to be factual posts, to contribute something to the conservative cause.

That’s about it.


117 posted on 03/17/2013 5:48:25 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: deport; tallyhoe

There’s plenty available from Ted Cruz himself about eligibility and natural born. What Hannity says about it isn’t as telling to me as what the man himself says. You could always post a link to what Cruz says about it. I would, but that would enable all those posting their self-made conclusions to be lazy lay-abouts.


118 posted on 03/17/2013 5:54:00 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Cruz’IN with Rand, 2016.


119 posted on 03/17/2013 6:23:25 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: GeronL
The libertarians have been stuffing vote for this straw poll forever, Ron Paul won it how many times?

Like last year, when Romney won the 2012 CPAC straw poll with 38%?

120 posted on 03/17/2013 7:26:02 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: deport

Is Ken Carson the prayer breakfast guy?


121 posted on 03/17/2013 7:27:54 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Pajamajan

The gulf between the Republican Party (GOPe) and actual conservative American voters continues to widen at an accelerated pace. The General Election of 2010 were the first in this generation where a significant number of conservative voters (formerly inclined to vote Republican) refused to play along and vote just R regardless.(Oh, what the hey!)

Just like many Democrat Party supporters are locked into ignorance and denial, so are GOPe (Republican Party) supporters. Just different degrees and kinds of ignorance.

America has a very real problem that may not get fixed comfortably.


122 posted on 03/17/2013 7:32:26 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: SoConPubbie

All Rand Paul needs to do for me to get on board is to declare in front of God and everybody, that the department of Education will be dissolved, and that parents must feed their own kids. Everything else will fall into place after that.

I’m only being somewhat facetious. We let Bill Ayers educate 2 generations of our youth, and wonder why statists win elections.


123 posted on 03/17/2013 7:38:31 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

Is Ken Carson the prayer breakfast guy?

************

I made a mistake. It is Ben Carson not Ken. I think he spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast back in Feb.


124 posted on 03/17/2013 8:08:13 AM PDT by deport
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To: Resettozero; Pajamajan

Correction of year: General Election of 2012...not 2010.

“It’s a wonder that I can even think at all.” P.Simon


125 posted on 03/17/2013 8:47:02 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: BarnacleCenturion

That’s a nice story you’ve got there, but as with Ron Paul, Rand Paul’s supporters constantly deny that their candidate said what he said.


126 posted on 03/17/2013 9:03:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Rand Paul’s position on gay marriage is very clear:

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Rand_Paul.htm#Civil_Rights

Your article is distorting what he said.


127 posted on 03/17/2013 9:39:55 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: deport

Sean saying it is so doesn’t make it so!! I like Ted Cruz and think he would make a good Pres. I am not so sure of his eligibility to be president!


128 posted on 03/17/2013 10:34:56 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe
“I'll leave that for others to decide” is Cruz's answer. Hannity’s proclamation isn't the definitive answer.
129 posted on 03/17/2013 10:48:08 AM PDT by deport
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The pendulum always swings eventually and one of the few things that can be counted on is that the young will rebel. The greatest danger to the collectivist crap message coming from Obama and crew is that it is now the “conventional wisdom” and the very young may be starting to realize that it is not wisdom of any kind,it is recycling the same old garbage that never works.


130 posted on 03/17/2013 12:15:09 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: advance_copy

Pretty much a given after the Filibuster.

Stepped up big time. Glad he did.


131 posted on 03/17/2013 2:05:49 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: freedomfiter2
Conservatives need to unify behind a single candidate within the next 12 months.

That will not happen.

132 posted on 03/17/2013 2:08:45 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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If Cruz runs he will win the nomination. I’ve been saying that since before he even beat out Dewhurst for the Republican nomination in his Senate run. The man is just an unbelievably good speaker as well as having a vast knowledge of the Constitution.

Anyone saying he is ineligible is a kook and doesn’t know jack about the law. The same people saying he is ineligible were the same people saying McCain was ineligible.


133 posted on 03/17/2013 2:23:53 PM PDT by jsdjason
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Young people love sex and drugs.


134 posted on 03/17/2013 2:39:21 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: BfloGuy

Conservatives need to unify behind a single candidate within the next 12 months.

That will not happen.

I guess we’d better start making arrangements to relocate to somewhere off the world’s radar.


135 posted on 03/17/2013 3:11:54 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Resettozero
"The gulf between the Republican Party (GOPe) and actual conservative American voters continues to widen at an accelerated pace."

Here, here!!! I pay this be true - acceleration is a good thing some times....

136 posted on 03/17/2013 8:37:34 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: advance_copy; Red in Blue PA; Sarah Barracuda; Viennacon; BarnacleCenturion; ...
I would love to see a combo of Rand Paul / Ted Cruze / Marco Rubio.

The problem is the Natural Born Citizen clause of the constitution and ObaMao set a horrible precident. Cruz and Rubio have issues that MUST be addressed.

137 posted on 03/17/2013 8:53:30 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: uncommonsense

Rubio is an ethnic-pandering amnesty promoter. Why would you want him? Because he gives slick speeches that mask his ties to the GOP elite?


138 posted on 03/17/2013 8:57:30 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, for amnesty, Spanish, and the Karl Rove machine.)
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To: Pelham
"Rubio is an ethnic-pandering amnesty promoter. Why would you want him?"

I'm not sure he reaches that threshold (reference please). He speaks very well of LIBERTY which is sorely lacking in today's elected officials, but regardless, he's not a Natural Born Citizen. So it's a moot point.

139 posted on 03/17/2013 9:31:33 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: advance_copy

” - - - Rep. Paul D. Ryan, the GOP’s vice presidential nominee last year, was fifth with 6 percent. - - - “

Keep your House job Ryan, as we don’t want no more GOP Elites running for POTUS !


140 posted on 03/17/2013 9:36:41 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: uncommonsense

“(reference please)”

http://tinyurl.com/d2djodm

In 2008, Rubio blocked a number of patriotic immigration bills in the Florida legislature. The Miami Herald reported:

“Florida lawmakers looking to pass bills targeted at curbing illegal immigration faced one major hurdle this session—convincing South Florida legislators, who hold key leadership positions in the House and Senate, to support their cause. Without the backing of House Speaker Marco Rubio, the first Cuban-American to hold the position, the bills failed to get any major play in their committees. Six weeks into the session, a three-hour workshop was held on the six House bills, but even that failed to produce its desired intent of combining the bills into one larger committee bill.

“’Speaker Rubio outlined the priorities of the session and this didn’t fall under that list,’ said [Rep. David] Rivera, one of Rubio’s lieutenants.”

When Arizona enacted SB 1070, Rubio wrote:

“Arizona’s policy shows the difficulty and limitations of states trying to act piecemeal to solve what is a serious federal problem… I think aspects of the law, especially that dealing with ‘reasonable suspicion,’ are going to put our law enforcement officers in an incredibly difficult position. It could also unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens.”

Rubio eventually flip-flopped—after the conservative grassroots embraced Arizona. But he still made sure to qualify that we need “a legal immigration system that works” (a.k.a. more legal immigration) and that we must “Understand that what Arizona is facing is different from anything Florida has ever faced... Frankly, very few states in the country can imagine what that’s like.” (i.e. no other state should consider enacting a similar bill.


141 posted on 03/17/2013 9:48:58 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, for amnesty, Spanish, and the Karl Rove machine.)
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To: Pelham
"Florida lawmakers looking to pass bills targeted at curbing illegal immigration faced one major hurdle this session—convincing South Florida legislators, who hold key leadership positions in the House and Senate, to support their cause. Without the backing of House Speaker Marco Rubio, the first Cuban-American to hold the position, the bills failed to get any major play in their committees. "

OK. Point well taken. That's not good. McLame had the same problem - not wanting to close the doors before revamping immigration.

Thanks for the info!!!!

142 posted on 03/17/2013 10:00:29 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Thanks for posting the link. Some good info:


143 posted on 03/17/2013 10:12:48 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: manc

Keeping my eye on Rand Paul. He did vote for Kerry and Hagel...reason being he believed he could block Brennan with his filibuster. I never did grasp the logic as all 3 have been confirmed.
Was it all a show and an attempt to set the table for a presidential run?


144 posted on 03/17/2013 11:16:27 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: jsdjason

“Anyone saying he is ineligible is a kook”

Look, Obama’s mother was born in the US and yet he still had to produce a birth certificate to prove that he was eligible. Cruz was born in Canada. If he is eligible then anybody is eligible.


145 posted on 03/18/2013 5:12:01 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Red in Blue PA

Rand Paul is an isolationist and a liberal on social issues.
Like his old man, he has no chance of ever being a power player in the Republican Party.


146 posted on 03/18/2013 5:29:33 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

“Rand Paul is an isolationist and a liberal on social issues.”

BS. Check post #143.

“he has no chance of ever being a power player in the Republican Party.”

He is already a power player in the Republican party.

There is nobody else.


147 posted on 03/18/2013 8:21:03 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: katiedidit1

same here.

Has he learned from father and got more polished but has the same whacky views or is he a libertarian posing as a republican?

I guess time will tell but I heard him taling about homosexual amrriage and that got the liberal happy, heard a little about illegals and then while thinking he would vote for Kerry and Hagel he could block Brennan it just was a side show in the end.

Like I said time will tell and we’ll see if he has the same nutty views as his dad.


148 posted on 03/18/2013 8:51:59 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I said a long time ago, that Ted Cruz comes across as Marco Rubio on steroids, or a totally unvarnished version of Rubio-—before Cruz came along, I’m sure a lot of us were pushing ourselves to embrace Rubio, on little real evidence, wanting to believe he was tougher than he really was: then along came Cruz, who actually fulfilled that “fantasy”.


149 posted on 03/18/2013 9:13:56 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: TomGuy

Whatever other reasons Cruz might have only got 4% (and Paul and Rubio “won” with a total of nearly half the vote in a field of dozens) , I think the main one is that there’s
a kind of collective turning away from Cruz as being too
abrasive and too confident in that abrasiveness: here is where the “NEW” face of the GOP-e asserts itself: Cruz is not the face that they want to present to the American public.
They accept him provisionally as a hitman, but not as a figurehead/candidate.


150 posted on 03/18/2013 9:26:24 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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