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Elite GOP surprisingly more open to Rand than many think...But still wary.
Twitter ^ | Robert Costa

Posted on 03/19/2013 10:23:20 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan

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As I said before, circumstances were different.

There was no welfare state, there was a frontier to populate, and an expanding need for labor. All of things have changed. There is a welfare state (and, by Supreme Court decision, you can't cut them off from welfare), there is no frontier, there is no expanding demand for labor, and illegal aliens are a threat to national security (read the history of the Roman Empire).

So darn straight I want the drawbridge pulled up, the walls manned, the pots of oil heated, the catapults, trebuchets, and ballistas loaded, and certain death to await any would-be invaders.

41 posted on 03/19/2013 12:48:47 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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I think there’s plenty of room and many of the states are under-populated with plenty of land that should be developed (mostly controlled by the Feds).

I’m not as hostile to new entrants as you are and I think it’s ridiculous you can be FOR the unfettered immigration America experienced for 200 years and now against another wave.


42 posted on 03/19/2013 1:00:49 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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Found your problem. What you believe is a myth.

We have NEVER had “unfettered immigration.” Immigration was both controlled and limited. Immigrants could be turned away for undesirable political views, for being ill, or for any of many other issues. That poem about the Statue of Liberty - that was all it was - a poem.

This was changed thanks to an @$$hole named Edward Kennedy, and his Democrat buddies when they passed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. Their intention was to build a Democrat majority by changing the demographics of the US and they have had amazing success at it. Labour did the same to the Brits in the UK.

So if you like Teddy “The Swimmer” Kennedy’s methods and goals, by all means keep believing your myths. As for me, I want the border mined and the invading barbarians expelled - violently if need be.


43 posted on 03/19/2013 2:29:14 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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I am proud to be a libertarian and have no problems with immigrants. America is a nation of immigrants. I dont want them to get welfare though.

Back then we were a "melting pot." Now we're a "tossed salad".

44 posted on 03/19/2013 2:33:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Who give a rats behind what the GOPe thinks?

The GOPe should just get out of the way.


45 posted on 03/19/2013 2:36:07 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Sure. They want a winner. The GOP "civil war" stuff is exaggerated.

Somebody's going to say, "If they wanted a winner, why did they support losers like McCain and Romney in the last two elections?"

The question answers itself. Who was the possible GOP winner in those elections? [No credit for the answer "Anybody."]

Is Rand Paul really a winner? I don't know, but don't assume that if there really were another Ronald Reagan somewhere that the GOP-e would be die-hard opponents.

46 posted on 03/19/2013 2:48:07 PM PDT by x
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