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To: Ray76

“Certainly sounds like amnesty”

There is no path to citizenship. And if the illegals don’t become citizens they can’t vote.

His plan is only meant to turn the illegals into taxpayers. Right now they are free loaders who are gaming the system with no risk of getting caught or of being sent home.


21 posted on 03/19/2013 12:41:14 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Really? Hasn’t stopped them so far.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 12:42:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“There is no path to citizenship. And if the illegals don’t become citizens they can’t vote.”

Yes, they can and do vote in many municipalities, but not for president. Look it up.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 12:45:41 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Norm Lenhart
There is no path to citizenship. And if the illegals don’t become citizens they can’t vote.

Definition of AMNESTY

: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals


You seem to be confused about the definition of Amnesty as if it has to include citizenship.

It doesn't.

All it has to do, is make them legal, and "forgive" or forget all the illegal acts they have committed, including crossing the border illegally.

If you are going to argue a point, argue from correct definitions, otherwise, you are misleading people.
26 posted on 03/19/2013 12:47:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

They’ll be “regularized” in every respect. Then in the name of “fairness” they will be made citizens. It is the Fabian way. Brick by brick.

“My plan will not grant amnesty or move anyone to the front of the line” says Paul. Yet they ARE at the front of the line! They are here!

Don’t make me laugh.

Secure the border; deport illegal aliens on contact with police; stop enticing illegal aliens: no driver license, no college tuition, nothing whatsoever; prosecute employers.

It’s really pretty damn simple. What is wrong with these politicians?


27 posted on 03/19/2013 12:49:57 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
There is no path to citizenship. And if the illegals don’t become citizens they can’t vote.

The other glaring problem with any loosening of the standards for staying here is that you KNOW the hispanic and immigrants rights groups will immediately file suit with one friendly court after another until some judge declares that we don't have 'second class persons' in this country.

Making them citizens will then become the next 'gay marriage'-like cultural crusade.

Political pressure will be irresistible and it WILL happen.

Lawbreakers cannot be rewarded. And although thats exactly what will end up happening here it will have to do so without my support.

35 posted on 03/19/2013 1:25:02 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: BarnacleCenturion
And if the illegals don’t become citizens they can’t vote.

What dream world do you live in? The Supreme Court is about to rule that all yo have to do is give your word that you are a citizen to vote. California has a law that you can't even ask about citizenship at the polls. Many cities let non citizens vote in elections.

41 posted on 03/19/2013 1:47:32 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Oh, please.

He says they can go to the back of the line? Back of the line for what? Tea and crumpets? NO, for citizenship. That’s amnesty.


46 posted on 03/19/2013 5:40:54 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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