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To: Lee'sGhost
By 1828, the North had become more and more industrialized. In other words, it largely left its agricultural roots and became a great producer of products and goods. On the other hand, the South maintained its agrarian roots, growing much of the nation’s food as well as exporting a tremendous amount of agricultural products to Europe.

Not so much. There were still a lot of farms in the North that supplied the factory towns with food. Even down into my parents' time that was true. That was in the East. In the antebellum period agriculture was still on top and growing in what we now call the Middle West.

The South could have followed that model as well -- factories and workshops plus farms. Instead, important areas of the South threw themselves into cotton production. It was easy money. Especially if you had slaves to do the real work. Industry didn't develop very much, but the South wasn't really the nation's bread basket either.

Pretty much blows the “equal tariffs” nonsense out of the water. While individuals may have paid the tariff equally on the goods they purchased, the IMPACT of the tariffs upon the respective economies was profoundly unfair and unequal.

The assumption was that different regions would develop both agriculture and manufactures. In George Washington's day that was a sound assumption. Industry was just getting started in different regions of the country. Decades later, it wouldn't be, in part because of the cotton boom, in part because of the general decay of the Tidewater region, in part because cold weather and poor soil in the Northeast encouraged industrialization.

The important thing, though, is that the Southern states mostly got their way on tariffs right down to 1861. Once the Democrats got solidly behind low tariffs and acquired a following in all states they could generally keep tariffs from rising too high. From 1829 to 1859 they controlled the Senate and the House for all but 6 years, the presidency for all but 8 years. So long as the Democrats remained united and in Congress tariffs weren't going to go very high.

Lincoln gave us Wilson who gave us FDR who gave us Obama.

Best to check again on who gave us Wilson and FDR ...

Heck, my family voted for Roosevelt too, at least the first two times, but at 97% or 98% you guys do have a lot to answer for.

213 posted on 03/26/2013 3:36:02 PM PDT by x
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To: x

99 percent of your post is just opinion...yours...without any supporting documentation. Admittedly, I did not document most of the post I made...but I do admit it.

Not sure what I have to answer for. I voted for none of those people. And suggest you check again on who gave us Wilson and FDR. Here’s a hint: try to figure it out without applying party affiliations but at socialist/progressive orientations. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR and Obama...peas in a pod.


214 posted on 03/26/2013 4:59:02 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: x; lentulusgracchus
You said: "... but the South wasn't really the nation's bread basket either."

Data from the US Treasury and Census reports as compiled by Kettell:

1859 Value of Southern Produce sold to the North...$200,000,000.

1859 Value of produce and grains exported from the North to Europe...$40,047,700.

Quote: "The exports of bread stuffs and provisions are also due to the South, since but for the quantities of these which are sent North to feed the Eastern States, little or no Western produce could be spared for Europe, even at high prices. (pg. 72, Kettell).

Quote: "The barren hills of New England...they have hitherto had their food and materials brought to them." (pg. 72, Kettell).

Quote: (1859 food exports from the North)"...The quantity of these articles which went direct from the Northern States did not exceed the quantities which that section received from the South and from Canada." (pg. 73, Kettell).

This is presented not to pick a fight about what some might consider a minor point, but to illustrate the magnitude of the demand and therefore profitability of Southern agriculture.

While criticizing the South for not embracing industrialization according to your purview, it must be admitted that manufacturing was moving South but not at the same rate as in other parts of the country. That was a function of demand, technology gains, finance, and cultural adaptation.

While keeping this in mind, it is important to not minimize the severe impact on profit and land value of the impending Morrill Tariff, which was a well planned scheme of the Republican party.

302 posted on 04/02/2013 12:32:19 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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