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China’s new stealth fighter’s missile launch rails prove Beijing can improve U.S. technology
The Aviationist ^ | March 26, 2013 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 03/26/2013 2:31:34 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

China’s new stealth fighter’s missile launch rails prove Beijing can improve U.S. technology

In order to preserve their stealthiness and keep the RCS (Radar Cross Section) as low as possible, radar-evading planes rely on weapons bay: bombs and missiles to be fired are kept inside the bays until it’s time to use them.

For instance, the F-35 can carry one AIM-120D (AIM-120C8), on a trapeze : when needed, the BVR (Beyond Visual Range) missile is lowered into the airstream on the open bomb bay door, and ejected.

F-22 Raptors use canted trapeze to put the AIM-9 Sidewinder seeked into the airstream to achieve a lock on the target as the side bay doors are open.

Image credit: U.S. Air Force

Once the missile is fired, the bay doors close up.

Obviously, such method requires the stealth plane to fly with the open bay doors for a certain amount of time, a condition that can limit the aircraft performance, maneuverability, and increases the overall plane’s RCS, with a temporary exposure of the aircraft to the enemy radars.

Something that can be quite lethal in a Within Visual Range scenario.

The problem is to be partly solved with the use of missiles featuring the Lock On After Launch capability. With this kind of missile (available on the Raptor when the AIM-9M will be replaced by the AIM-9X Block II) the bay doors remain open just the time it is needed to eject the missile into the airstream.

However, China might have found a clever solution to the problem, as the latest images of the J-20 Mighty Dragon stealth fighter jet, emerging from the Chinese Internet, seem to suggest.

Indeed, the second prototype of the aircraft features a missile deployment device on the side weapons bay which extracts the selected air-to-air missile and then closes the door to keep the reduced RCS.

Simpler and probably cheaper than the use of LOAL missiles, the J-20′s deployment device shows that Chinese engineers are not simply copying U.S. tech: if not improving it, they are at least troubleshooting some of the issues already faced by their American counterparts, with some clever ideas.

The missile launch rail was used to carry the PL-10 IR air-to-air missile during tests.

Anyway, it’s worth noticing that along with AIM-9X missiles, the F-22 pilots will receive Scorpion HMCS (Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems) that will be particularly useful in case of dogfight. There are no information about similar helmets being fielded to Chinese fighter planes.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; j20

1 posted on 03/26/2013 2:31:34 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’d guess that every piece of military hardware I’ve ever been involved with had potential improvements that the military wasn’t interested in. Not because they didn’t want the improvements, but because changing the paperwork cost too much. Often, it didn’t even matter if the improvement was a cost advantage that paid for itself. Changing the training material and the documentation was usually a different budget. If there’s no money in that budget then no change is made.


2 posted on 03/26/2013 2:39:10 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: sukhoi-30mki
All that hardware and buildup and such are more likely to project their strength against the regional power house (Japan, Korea, and other Chinese neighbors).

So the questions are - Do China's neighbors have deterrent(s)?

3 posted on 03/26/2013 2:49:50 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

We are an aging, failing state. Too worried about gay marriage, and budget battles to actually care about defense.

We will no longer innovate, we will no longer achieve. The best that we can hope for is a slow decline, praying that a stronger, more determined state doesn’t decide to claim a piece of our land for their own.


4 posted on 03/26/2013 2:50:58 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I wonder what’s stamped on Chinese missiles...Made in the U.S.???


5 posted on 03/26/2013 3:04:32 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: brownsfan

“....to actually care about defense.”

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How wrong you are!

We are going to have women in combat and that will scare the living hell out of the enemy.


6 posted on 03/26/2013 3:07:34 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: 353FMG

Only for a week every month.


7 posted on 03/26/2013 3:16:33 PM PDT by Anvilhead (In my lifetime we've gone from citizens to subjects.)
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To: BCW
no, Designed in the USA...
8 posted on 03/26/2013 4:07:22 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Anvilhead

The other three weeks, the guys in the pink tutus fill in ...


9 posted on 03/26/2013 4:16:08 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Idiots, what is simpler with the weapon hanging out in the wind and reflecting with a radar signature still attached to the aircraft. It does not solve the problem.


10 posted on 03/26/2013 4:28:14 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: BCW

“I wonder what’s stamped on Chinese missiles...Made in the U.S.???”

Close. What is actually stamped on them is “Courtesy of William Jefferson Clinton.”


12 posted on 03/26/2013 5:05:02 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why not launch out the rear, then have the missiles lock on? a little flap that lifts up, the missiles ‘eject’, and then the fire control radar directs them to target? no bay door opening, no increase in RCS. The bay doors would only open for loading/unloading.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 5:48:26 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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