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To: the scotsman

Again, you provide zero evidence as to why the EDL are an ‘extreme right wing’ group. An extreme right wing group would be similar to Tim McVeigh, hardcore libertarian or anarchist. The EDL are a one-issue protest movement, seeking to protest against Islamic occupation. Are they violent? Yes. So what? I don’t recall any stories about them killing anybody, and its not as if the people they face off against (UAF thugs and communist agitators) are exactly ‘peaceful’. They’ve assaulted police. This is the same police that cover up Muslim pedophile gangs? Yeah, I’d probably want to assault them too.

If you don’t like what the EDL do, fine, but don’t pretend that UKIP or any other mainstream political group is committed to tackling the Islamic problem, because UKIP pussy out whenever the issue is raised, a shame, because there was a time when they did talk about it. I’ll acknowledge however, that many of their members do still see it as a top priority, but the leadership is too cowardly to face the issue head on, because they know the media will come after them.

I can see where you’re coming from. 7/7 doesn’t seem to have had a lasting impact on Britain or people’s attitude towards the cult of death that is Islam, but Americans remember 9/11 as if it was yesterday, so yes, for us no group could be worse than Abu Qatada’s congregation and his supporters in your government. And just remember, Muslims bred and raised in YOUR country, have then gone to Afghanistan and fought with the enemy to kill our soldiers. So perhaps the other posters you mention just want Europe to be rid of Islam, and they don’t care if its done through violence or through other methods. Something to consider.


55 posted on 04/04/2013 9:08:29 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Do research and the links between the EDL and the BNP/even worse groups are pretty easy to find. I have been on FR for years, and anyone who reads me knows I dont post accusations.

You may not care they are violent, I do. Firstly, extreme Islam can be combatted without violence on the streets. Secondly, many in the EDL are frankly racist, and dont like anyone who isnt white. So any Muslim is fair game. And Einsteins like that of course usually dont care if the ‘Muslim’ they assault is actually a Sikh or Hindu or even Christian. Thirdly, any violence rather obviously is counterproductive. Its manna from heaven for the left, who will use it to label all of us who are concerned about Islam and immigration as racists. Such leftwing labels may, in fact would, have political consequences, which would weaken a strong stance.

You also seem none too bothered about the assaulting of police, again I DO.

As to Sept 11th and July 7th, perhaps we see those attacks, esp the latter, as yet another enemy. One in a long line of terrorists, from the IRA of 1916 to today, from the Irgun/Stern jewish gangs in 40’s Palestine to the leftwing Angry Brigade of 70’s London, to today and extreme Islam.
Groups to combat, groups to be concerned about, but not a group to get too hysterical about. There are always and sadly always wiil be terrorists and extremists.

Abu Qatada has no supporters in govt!. For heavens sake, this govt is trying to get rid of him, only to stopped by the courts.

Muslims born and bred in the US have killed US/UK soldiers as well. dont sit too easily on that high horse.

‘So perhaps the other posters you mention just want Europe to be rid of Islam, and they don’t care if its done through violence or through other methods. Something to consider.’

If the EDL was a genuine patriot/anti-extremist islam group, with people from all groups, with a peaceful but strong ideology, then that would be just super. But they arent.

As I said, I and many others on the right, do not consider the EDL to be people to be supported or admired. And the idea therefore that because we do, we arent real Brits is bunkum.


59 posted on 04/04/2013 12:34:46 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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