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VA police officers refused service because of guns (Buffalo Wild Wings)
http://www.nbc12.com ^ | march 27, 2013 | Dax Gray

Posted on 03/27/2013 9:20:39 AM PDT by lowbridge

A server at Buffalo Wild Wings reportedly refused to serve eight police officers, because they had their weapons displayed.

The Prince William County Police officers were on-duty, but were in plain clothes, reports the Manassas Patch. They were refused service by an employee who stated that the property was a gun-free establishment.

The officers had their badges displayed but still weren't served.

Scott Lupton, the general manager of the Manassas Buffalo Wild Wings location says the incident was a "huge misunderstanding." Lupton wrote an email to the police department to apologize on behalf of the business.

Lupton wasn't there during the incident, but was brought up to speed the next day after returning to work.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; code7fail; guncontrol; guns; leo; secondamendment; sourcetitlenoturl; virginia
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1 posted on 03/27/2013 9:20:39 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Fine by me.

If it’s a gun free property then LEO should find a more appropriate and friendly place to eat.


2 posted on 03/27/2013 9:21:54 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: lowbridge

Why isn’t the “server” in question named? Is she a juvenile?


3 posted on 03/27/2013 9:23:09 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: lowbridge

Robbers, take note -


4 posted on 03/27/2013 9:23:18 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: lowbridge

Hey gun free should be gun free. After all, its not the person that is banned, but rather the object, right?

The police were free to leave their weapons in their vehicle, just like anyone else, right?


5 posted on 03/27/2013 9:23:32 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: lowbridge
Not a smart move for a business whose major clientele is mostly male and sports fans.

Sort of like Gander Mountain or Cabella's hanging out a "Gun Free Zone" sign.

6 posted on 03/27/2013 9:23:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: lowbridge

Stupid to be gun-free, but cops need to abide by the rules, too.

Tough.


7 posted on 03/27/2013 9:24:21 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: lowbridge

The employee was just doing as directed and management took care of it. No big deal.


8 posted on 03/27/2013 9:24:27 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Cowboy Bob

Why should it be necessary? Sounds like a thoughtful boss.


9 posted on 03/27/2013 9:25:31 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: lowbridge

No guns, No business


10 posted on 03/27/2013 9:25:46 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: lowbridge

No problem, it’s a free country. Next time some ahole starts getting rowdy or harassing the help, BWW should feel free to call a hippie.


11 posted on 03/27/2013 9:25:46 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: lowbridge

I’m afraid that we’re going to be seeing and hearing about more of these incidents in the near future. Seems as though obama is recruiting all kinds of folks to help promote his gun-grabbing agenda.


12 posted on 03/27/2013 9:25:56 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: lowbridge

The good news is, Prince William County police officers will now get free coffee at Buffalo Wild Wings.


13 posted on 03/27/2013 9:26:41 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: lowbridge

Pay back is a b**** isn’t it???


14 posted on 03/27/2013 9:27:52 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Vendome

In the future, when the place is being robbed, the police should repond: “Sorry, we can’t help you, you don’t want guns in there so....”


15 posted on 03/27/2013 9:29:52 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: bmwcyle
No guns, No business

Has anyone given thought to publishing a list of "Crime Havens" (aka Gun Free Zones)?

16 posted on 03/27/2013 9:30:23 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Vigilanteman

“Not a smart move for a business whose major clientele is mostly male and sports fans.”

You don’t actually believe that their customers are paying any attention do you? They are too busy tracking their brackets to pay attention to issues related to liberty...


17 posted on 03/27/2013 9:30:48 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: lowbridge

I think all females should take note that signs make places safer.

I think every woman should wear a sign that says “Rape Free Zone”. That way, when they are walking down a dark street, and a rapists approaches, she can say “Stop. Look. I have a sign.”
The rapist will say “dangit!” and go about his business.

(is sarc tag even necessary?)


18 posted on 03/27/2013 9:34:48 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: SampleMan
Hey gun free should be gun free. After all, its not the person that is banned, but rather the object, right?

The police were free to leave their weapons in their vehicle, just like anyone else, right?

Exactly.

And in every state the police, law makers, officials and judges should be limited by the same laws that limit the citizens, period.

19 posted on 03/27/2013 9:35:42 AM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: Vigilanteman

The other source for best-quality wings, also a male/sports establishment, is Taco Mac, my personal favorite. Unfortunately they now have signs at the door saying no weapons allowed.


20 posted on 03/27/2013 9:36:54 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: lowbridge

Screw em. Everyone should stay away. Get the name of the employee. If he/she ever calls the cops for help, tell him/her that he/she will have to wait till we go pick up our guns which we left at the station because we were going to Buffalo Wildwings for lunch and could not carry our guns.


21 posted on 03/27/2013 9:37:59 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: SampleMan

What are you babbling about?


22 posted on 03/27/2013 9:38:07 AM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Politically Correct

Yep. What’s good for the goose...


23 posted on 03/27/2013 9:39:07 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: lowbridge

Buffalo Wild Wings will henceforth also be a Megan Free Zone.


24 posted on 03/27/2013 9:42:28 AM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: SampleMan

There’s a point here, though I’ll bet the owner isn’t willing to discriminate against pistol packing police people.

I’m having a tough time figuring out who the good guys are any more.

DHS buys 2700 tanks, and billions of rounds of ammo, to use against ME, then you have to ask the question.

I passed by four police cruisers, all parked outside the pistol range located about two blocks from my neighborhood. It was late, I made a proper turn, at the proper speed, and I looked at them as I passed. Every one of them was looking at me like I was a target.

I waved and smiled, and none waved back. As I was taking kids to piano lessons, I passed them twice, and got the same frosty response.

My cousin just gave me another six boxes of hollowpoint slugs for my 12 ga. I frankly don’t know who I might be more likely to use them on anymore.

Oh, and the news from Cyprus? I’m no prepper, but Cyprus is really happening, and Italy HAS to be next. If this happens in Italy, then it will call in to question whether any bank is safe.

I’m wondering if someone isn’t talking to the police and telling them its going to get ugly soon.

I’m upper middle class, and crooks use our neighborhood like an ATM machine. Out of 80 homes, 10 have been invaded. Miraculously, nobody killed.

I had a meeting with the Bandidos recently, as we are raising money for kids causes. I couldn’t have been more welcome.

Up is down, folks. I felt safer there, and with those gents, and they were gentlemen, than I did with the police.


25 posted on 03/27/2013 9:42:34 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: lowbridge

Is it gun free by choice, or as mandated by law?


26 posted on 03/27/2013 9:45:23 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: envisio

Again fine by me but, I do wonder what their stance is regarding the rights of their fellow citizens and the 2A rights.

Sorry, getting a bit jaded with everyone’s opinion that we are in error to whatever moral high standing opinion they have about us.


27 posted on 03/27/2013 9:47:34 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: tgusa

No kidding, they now know that it’s a gun free zone and armed LEO isn’t welcome.

Which is probably a big reason why the manager apologized and is comp’ing police coffee. His server just put a big ole bullseye on his business.


28 posted on 03/27/2013 9:49:38 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: RinaseaofDs

If you got a frosty response, then they have your number. You are not classified as a victim in their database, just the opposite.

I’ll bet your leo are NOT from your town.


29 posted on 03/27/2013 9:49:40 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: lowbridge

Screw the cops.


30 posted on 03/27/2013 9:51:23 AM PDT by Third Person (Do the Strandski!)
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To: Vendome

The next time that establishment is robbed the cops should simply state “yours is a gun free zone and since we’re packing heat we can’t come out of respect for your rights.”


31 posted on 03/27/2013 9:51:32 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: MeganC

May I inquire where else is a Megan Free Zone?

I try my Damnedest to make Wal Mart a Kc Lion Free Zone.


32 posted on 03/27/2013 9:53:07 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: lowbridge
Apparently the server wasn't aware that some animals are more equal than others.

Manager Scott Lupton, on the other hand is a good socialist proletariat, living his life on his knees, as he should.

33 posted on 03/27/2013 9:53:34 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: lowbridge
Perhaps this would shed light on the story:
Prominently displayed in the restaurant window:


From the manager:

"… There is no reason why those officers should have been asked to leave … police officers are always welcome in my establishment and even though we do have a no gun policy, as a company that excludes off duty police officer," Lupton wrote. "As a company we are community oriented. We appreciate everything that police officers do for us."


So if you are a gun-carrying citizen, you are refused service. If you are a cop, no problem.
34 posted on 03/27/2013 9:56:33 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Navy Patriot

Ah, if only to be a member of the privileged centurion class...


35 posted on 03/27/2013 9:59:45 AM PDT by Third Person (Do the Strandski!)
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To: lowbridge

It’s about time this gun free zone baloney created some inconvenient unintended consequences.


36 posted on 03/27/2013 10:01:58 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: lowbridge
Buffalo Wild Wings
10063 Market Cir
Manassas, VA 20109
(703) 335-2672
http://www.buffalowildwings.com

Scott Lupton, general manager

Sauce for the sheep is sauce for the buffalo wings.

Me? I don't think he should have apologized, but if he allows guns for some, but not for all, he should apologize to all, not some.

After all, the police have demonstrated a notable lack of restraint and proper target identification on multiple occasions...


37 posted on 03/27/2013 10:01:59 AM PDT by null and void (If the government is so worried about civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?)
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To: subterfuge

Which part confused you?

Its a gun free zone right? Does it say, “No bad people with guns”? I don’t think so.

So why would there be an exemption for the police? Because they aren’t bad people with ill intent? Well neither am I.

If guns are banned, then guns are banned.

So again, which part is confusing you?


38 posted on 03/27/2013 10:04:13 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: trubolotta
VCDL LIST
39 posted on 03/27/2013 10:04:34 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: lowbridge

When the inevitable string of armed robberies start hitting that BWW and others around the nation, I hope the police will respect BWW’s anti-gun views by not responding to any 911 calls.


40 posted on 03/27/2013 10:10:44 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Why isn’t the “server” in question named? Is she a juvenile?

Why should she be named? She did not commit any crime... right?

41 posted on 03/27/2013 10:11:29 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: subterfuge

His post was clear as a bell. What part of it did you find confusing?


42 posted on 03/27/2013 10:15:13 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Vendome

The bottom line of the story is that the manager apologized for treating the police officers the way he would treat you or me if he knew we were carrying.


43 posted on 03/27/2013 10:16:07 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: bmwcyle

Thank you, exactly what I was looking for. Not exactly the sting however I was hoping to see but at least it is there.


44 posted on 03/27/2013 10:16:18 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: stuartcr

“The employee was just doing as directed and management took care of it. No big deal.”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

In my days of working for corporations I have actually been treated as if I were an idiot because I did things by the rules as stated by the management. These were always rules that were treated as inviolable as far as official policy is concerned but when they slowed things down they were supposed to be ignored. Sometimes supposedly iron clad safety rules were ignored by management in practice but given total support verbally. The official policy at this restaurant probably says that NO ONE is to be served if they are carrying a weapon.


45 posted on 03/27/2013 10:24:57 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: envisio

You have given me a great idea! I am going to put up signs all over my eight acres saying GOVERNMENT AGENT FREE ZONE. Then I will never have to worry about being bothered by government agents in the future.


46 posted on 03/27/2013 10:28:51 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: COBOL2Java

In Texas, that sign wouldn’t hold up as legal notification.


47 posted on 03/27/2013 10:32:48 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Ken H

If they were Black and she refused to serve them, would that be a crime?


48 posted on 03/27/2013 10:33:03 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Concealed means just that, and, since nobody is able to see my weapon, I simply ignore such signs.


49 posted on 03/27/2013 10:47:52 AM PDT by benewton
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To: Cowboy Bob
If they were Black and she refused to serve them, would that be a crime?

Not if she refused service on the basis of them carrying guns. Now back to my questions. In your opinion, did she commit a crime - yes or no?

If "yes", then what crime do you think she committed?

If "no", then why should she be named?

50 posted on 03/27/2013 10:49:42 AM PDT by Ken H
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