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Marine colonel speaks about women in combat
hamptonroads.com ^ | March 22, 2013 | Dianna Cahn

Posted on 03/28/2013 7:19:51 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 03/28/2013 7:19:51 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Hope is a poor way to plan to win a war...

"My hope is that emotion and good intentions do not affect our ability to prevail in the face of our future enemies," she said.

2 posted on 03/28/2013 7:22:17 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Hope is a poor way to plan to win a war...


That’s what she’s saying.


3 posted on 03/28/2013 7:31:55 PM PDT by laplata
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Do we really want to see our daughters, wives, mothers in full blown frontline combat. Can you imagine if they were on the frontline at Normandy or Iwo Jima. The very idea of it demonstrates the utter stupidity of ANYONE even contemplating that.


4 posted on 03/28/2013 7:33:35 PM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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“How are we going to balance that? How are we going to balance this ‘”NEED” to fully integrate women while maintaining our standards?”

A more false premise has NEVER been spoken. Makes me marvel as to how the USMC ever managed that 80 mile withdrawal from Hagaru-Ri at the Chosin Resovoir to the port of Hnngnam without women infantry.

NONE OF THIS is necessary and NONE OF IT will enhance the ability of the armed forces to fight. This issue is being impelled by radical feminist activist politics and cultural marxism. Now we are being told that women are MORE suitable for recruitment for the armed forces than men. This ids the sort of propoganda that those in the cultural marxist homosexual activist movement employ when they imply that homosexual couples are more suitable to raise children than heterosexuals. Anything to achieve their objective of “fundamentally changing” important societal institutions.
This notion of placing women into combat roles is just so easy to refute. Many of you may have heard of a little dustup called World War II. At the peak of United States involvement in that war there were 12 ½ million personnel in uniform, many of them women. Over 400,000 personnel were killed in the line of duty, against the toughest battlefield enemies this country has ever had to face, ones that were capable of and often did inflict shattering BATTLEFIELD defeats upon our sea, land and air forces. Despite this no one saw any need to place women into combat roles that had the responsibility to directly close with, engage, and destroy the enemy..
Today with a much smaller and almost hand picked elite Armed Forces, and a population base that is more than twice as large as that during World War II, there is even less need for it now than then.
This entire idiocy is being propelled by the demand for selfish feminists to qualify for chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, nothing more and nothing less than that.
This lunacy WILL weaken the ability of the Armed Forces to fight, just consider the logistical strain that it will place on the Armed Forces for separate housing and the like. The evidence of the disparity in physical suitabilities for combat MOS’s as reinforced by study after study is simply overwhelming. The effort that will be necessary to obtain a relative few qualified women will not result in anything remotely resembling any accepted model of effeciency, but since that is NOT the object any way, why worry about that? This is merely another sop to the perverted Cultural Marxist notion of fairness and equality and another step on the road of “fundamental transformation” of the vital institutions of this nation.


5 posted on 03/28/2013 7:34:20 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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“......and see what comes up....”

The same ‘thing’ that always comes up... and it WILL be a problem.


6 posted on 03/28/2013 7:42:54 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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The left continually attempts to legislate to overcome physics and biology.

Doing so erodes freedom and increases their power and control.


7 posted on 03/28/2013 7:48:18 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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I can’t begin to count the number of recruits with me in basic that were picked up by the cattle cars because they couldn’t force march 15 miles with full load. Of course that was almost 40 years ago. Maybe things have changed.


8 posted on 03/28/2013 7:49:10 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Excellent!

Thanks for your service, DMZFrank.


9 posted on 03/28/2013 7:49:53 PM PDT by laplata
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I was following a story around 1990 as the St. Paul fire dept was desperately trying to get their first female through the standards.

The female was exceptional, was at her peak in fitness and health, youth and motivation, and she had at least two trainers, was on a special diet, and had all the leadership, management and media pushing her and supporting her.

All of this was in the hopes that on her best day, at her peak, at that snapshot moment of the first day of her hoped for 40 year career, that she would pass the low standard of a mediocre male applicant.

I couldn’t help but wonder what that meant in regards to her having reserves, of her being able to draw on extra when a life and death situation presented itself, what would she be like only 10 years later after aging and chili dogs and beer, family life and children, and all the other things that accumulate and take their toll after her best day, when she barely squeaked through the test.

Look at those guys fighting in Vietnam, look at how skinny they were and know that being men they could still do the job, but could a women, after living on cigarettes and canned peaches and water, for 6 months, dealing with dysentery and jungle heat, and no gymnasium?


10 posted on 03/28/2013 7:54:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (The left's most effective quote-“I’m libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics”)
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I call them cultural barbarians, because that is exactly what they are. They don’t care what they have to destroy in order to create their brave new world. Centuries of history, even reality itself, must be ignored in their quest for what? A fantasy!


11 posted on 03/28/2013 8:07:43 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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Israelis have already tried this and it doesn’t work.


12 posted on 03/28/2013 8:07:48 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, IÂ’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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Its ok with me if they can run 3 miles in 21 minutes, do 12 pullups and 60 situps in one minute. Fine. Sometimes you need a short skinny Marine to do something a big assed huge Devil Dog just is to big for. Sometimes a woman can go where men can’t. But they have got to meet the requirements.


13 posted on 03/28/2013 8:16:36 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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They say we are to celebrate diversity, but it’s they themselves who ignore the wonderful differences between men and women. They believe in equal outcome, not opportunity, and they will stop at nothing in their quest for fairness, to include ignoring the natural world and order.


14 posted on 03/28/2013 8:17:50 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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They can’t meet the standards so the standards will be changed. But that’s only part of the problem. There are the sexual problems, the rivalries, the jealousies, etc. If your husband were in combat would you want him serving with women? It’s just insane. Of course it’s being promoted not for any military reason, but in the name of radical egalitarianism.


15 posted on 03/28/2013 8:36:10 PM PDT by River Hawk
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What you said.. +1


16 posted on 03/28/2013 9:05:44 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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Sometimes a woman can go where men can’t.

Tell me, where is that?

17 posted on 03/28/2013 9:11:55 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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Wow. She just blew a huge whole in her career....good for her. Honest, straight forward, and clear eyed. She presents the case concisely and cogently and I say a big WHOA!!!! Too bad the dolts in the WH and the hack politico generals aren’t willing to listen to such sanity


18 posted on 03/28/2013 10:24:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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This Marine makes me proud. Politically correct she ain’t.
I hope the scumbag African communist CiC doesn’t get wind of this speech.


19 posted on 03/28/2013 10:31:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I didn’t know very many 120 pound guys in that 18-21 year old range.

I think if you did a distribution curve, a physically fit 120 pound guy would be at the left tail of that bell shaped curve, with probably 150-160 lbs near the center.

I hear what you are saying about sometimes needing small size for certain things, but a 120 lb male and a 120 lb female are two different things. The disadvantage with women physically (comparatively speaking) is two-fold: muscle mass, and bone structure. Testosterone and genetics does make a big difference.

I take my hat off to this Colonel. She sounds like a real no-nonsense Marine.


20 posted on 03/29/2013 3:44:50 AM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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