[BobL]

So we DECLARE DEFEAT and move on?

I mean if there wasn’t a push for gay marriage today, would anyone be thinking of outlawing marriage, which is what is being suggested here?

So I guess they set the agenda, and us conservatives are forced to buckle to it?

[ClearCase_guy]

Precisely. Look at the headline: "Cultural war can be avoided"

Who the heck wants to avoid the cultural war?? Bring it on! We can't just give up -- we need to meet the challenge and preserve the things worth preserving. Throwing marriage away in an effort to get along well with the homosexuals is just not a sensible strategy.

[jboot]

So we DECLARE DEFEAT and move on?

This is the meme of the week and it comes from the very top of the party. A lot of FReepers are on board, too. I guess a lot of folks haven't heard of the Law of Unintended Consequences. If we lose (or give up) we will lose a lot more than just traditional marriage.