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1 posted on 03/29/2013 8:26:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Common sense always required.

In 1972 one of my fellow Sargent’s was 6’3” & 205.
He was a rock solid martial arts expert.

He got jacked up at a physical and told he had to lose 6 lbs, to get back “under weight”.....

I told him to go see the base commander...but he decided it wasn’t worth it.

As for belly size maximums....41”....really?


2 posted on 03/29/2013 8:46:51 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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My doctor told me I needed to lose weight to meet the standards. I challenged her v to a pushup contest. I did 30 fast ones. We agreed on a weight about 30 lbs over the standard.


3 posted on 03/29/2013 8:48:20 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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This, indeed, is ridiculous.

On the other end of the spectrum are our policemen and EMT’s. My neighbor was transported to the hospital last week in an ambulance because of a heart related problem. There were only two EMT’s. One drove and the other had to ride in the passenger’s seat. He was way too large to fit behind the steering wheel and could not manage to get his butt up into the back of the ambulance. Fortunately one of our other neighbors is an M.D. and rode in the back of the ambulance to the hospital.

Their explanation for having the obese one working was because they were shorthanded.


5 posted on 03/29/2013 8:52:25 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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Those are signs of standards that are based on fantasy, not reality.

You mean like women in combat, and faggots in foxholes?

6 posted on 03/29/2013 8:53:24 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Your average NFL Lineman is a sorry specimen for anything else but playing the NFL line. Most of them lose up to 100 pounds when they retire. They are also usually orthopedic messes.

For the service, why don't they do muscle mass/fat ratios instead of just weight and waist? Other interesting stats: Average LAPD Waist size: 33. Average Chicago PD Waist size: 43.

Proportion? OK to have a 40" wasit with a 40" inseam.

7 posted on 03/29/2013 9:15:12 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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The AF is concerned about how their Airmen look. But this same officer could go out and march in a gay pride parade in tight shorts and black stockings and that would be just fine. Other military members of the same sex can wear their uniforms in the gay pride parades and kiss each other while marching down the street.

Yet, their concerned about appearance.


9 posted on 03/29/2013 9:20:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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The 40” rule is a typical example of governmental idiocy. In fact, when I was in, your physical fitness score included a waistline measurement that started penalizing any waist over, IIRC, 32 inches. I don’t remember if females had a smaller standard.

40” came from a POPULATION study that associated a 40” or greater waistline with increased heart disease. Apart for the fact that heart disease doesn’t usually cripple people until past military ages, the study was intended to give doctors a ‘factor’ that might make them explore the patient’s health further. It was never, ever meant to be a rule applied to everyone.

When the rule came out, I had 2 guys working for me at both extremes. One was a slender, 5’7” Filipino who had a 28 inch waist - and shoulders to match. Another was a Master Sergeant who had to turn sideways to get his shoulders thru the door frame. Slight exaggeration, but his shoulders were huge. Only a government worker could conclude they both needed the same size waist. His wrist matched my elbow...

In fact, we had a gal in the office who was 5’ 1” and MAYBE 95 lbs. I think she had a 23” waist, but she was built to match it. On a deployment, who do you want - a guy who could lift 100+ lbs with one arm, or a gal who didn’t even WEIGH 100 lbs?


12 posted on 03/29/2013 10:15:28 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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But it’s also clear that in this case (and many others; more about that below), neither of those things applied. Col. Bush cut a fine figure in uniform. He’s 6-foot-1, so his waist is in proportion to his height.

Ummmm ...... no. 6'-1" with a 41" waist does not, a fine military figure, make. However, he passed his PFT? I say, good to go.
16 posted on 03/30/2013 12:22:12 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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If the US Air Force is determined to make their airmen 'look better' in uniform, they're not going to accomplish it by redesigning their uniforms three times over like the Navy does and demanding Jenny Craig waistline standards that their personnel will magically adhere to overnight.

Want to know how the USMC keeps our Marines in great shape compared to all other service branches?

Smoke. Yo'. Ass. Into. The. Deck. Sucka.

Day in, day out. Ask me how I know.

22 posted on 03/30/2013 4:46:20 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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Suck it up, fatty.


23 posted on 03/30/2013 5:34:16 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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IIRC only about one in 10 Lt. Colonels makes it to full bird Col., and only about one in three Colonels makes it to general. This might have been a face saving way of telling him it's time to retire.
25 posted on 03/30/2013 6:04:39 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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We touched down at an Air Force base in Texas and stayed overnight. I thought we died and went to heaven. The Officer’s & VIP chowhall had tablecloths and 15 different condiments lined up for use. No cooks there. No, sir. They had five-star chefs, all top graduates of the Culinary Institute of America or Le Cordon Bleu in Paris.

When the chef asked how I wanted my three-inch thick Texas T-bone steak, I was shocked as I was usually served tire treads back at home base. The omelet was outstanding, not of the powdered variety, and fit for a king. I was offered as much smokehouse bacon - by the furlong - as I could eat. The perfect cream puff desserts were of French origin and stood about 12-inches tall. Each came with an airman to fan away the Texas humidity. They were out of Bordeaux but the B&B stood in fine.

After breakfast, we were escorted to the base commander’s Italian spa where we enjoyed a Japanese bath and back massage and then settled in for a morning of five-card stud while puffing fine Arturo Fuente Hemingway cigars.

Finally, at about noon, the Air Force personnel slipped out their feather beds, and the base stirred to life. They fueled up our clunky World War II vintage aircraft, gave us each a picnic basket of fresh fruit, wine and sandwiches and bid us adieu.

I can easily understand 41-inch waists in the Air Force.


29 posted on 03/30/2013 7:04:43 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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I can tell that these pukes have never really sat in an aircrewman’s seat in an Air Force aircraft.


32 posted on 03/30/2013 8:39:53 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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He’s 6-foot-1, so his (42") waist is in proportion to his height.

My son is 6'2" with a 40" waist. He is, not to dismiss his many good qualities, fat.

33 posted on 03/30/2013 8:50:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Stand in the corner and scream with me!)
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35 posted on 03/30/2013 4:21:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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