RUSH: How Did This Happen? The Left Corrupted Language, Undermined Morality - There was No Pushback

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How Did This Happen?
The Left Corrupted the Language, Undermined Morality -
- and There was No Pushback
March 29, 2013, by Rush Limbaugh

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, back to this gay marriage and language business.
I don't mind having to re-explain this.
I have learned over 25 years that it takes oftentimes ten different ways to explain something in order for some people to understand it.
Now, yesterday I said that gay marriage is inevitable.
There are two elements to this.
One of them:
The Republican Party signaled there isn't gonna be pushback against it.
But, secondly,
we lost the language,
and that's just as important.

The institution of marriage has been targeted for destruction, essentially,
and the road to destroying it is being paved,
and the way that this has been started is to change the definition.
I'll tell you what's coming next.
After this "civil right," they'll move on to "liberating" illegal aliens, and then taking away our civil right to bear arms.
They will also continue to push a carbon tax on the basis of climate change and whatever else.
They'll continue to corrupt the public school system, however they manage to do that.

I've looked at it, and in all instances, one of the things that is fundamental in the attack on all of these institutions and traditions which have defined America's greatness, is
an attack on the language.
Here's another one that's under assault, and that is borders.
"Immigration" is being used to destroy the meaning of "borders."
Now we got open borders?
Without borders, there would never have been the United States of America in order to create the economy that is drawing people here in the first place.

"Food stamps" and "disability" are another couple of words that have lost their purpose and meaning.
"Food stamps" and "disability" now simply mean unearned money.
Food stamps and disability have a totally different meaning than their original intent. Deficit.
Deficit is now something that simply is triggering the printing of money.
That's all a deficit means:
An excuse to print money.
Unions.
Unions are used to destroy companies, entire industries on behalf of the Democrat Party.

Unions are formed to acquire unfunded "benefits," and the pretense of educating children is the vehicle for that scam.
Environmentalism is an excuse to acquire government grants to increase taxes and regulations, to grow government, and to limit freedom.
Environmentalism is another word for attacking the very fuel of the engine of freedom, and that would be fossil fuels --
and let there be no mistake.
Fossil fuels are under assault.
Fossil fuels have become a great enemy.

Oil and natural gas have become enemies, evil things that the left must wipe out!
They hide behind environmentalism, trying to clean up the environment,
and all oil has done is further the spread of freedom all over the country and the insurance of our own freedom,
and it has been fundamentally responsible for the vast increase in prosperity in this country and all over the world.
Crisis, as you know, is an excuse for government action.
Crisis here! Crisis there!

Everything's a crisis.
This is now a word used to justify the expansion of and the intrusion by government in every walk of life.
Every faction of the Democrat Party is now a battering ram.
Destroy the institution of marriage,
destroy borders,
destroy education,
destroy private sector health care,
destroy private property,
destroy the Constitution,
destroy free markets!
The Democrat Party is nothing more than a battering ram,
and they're using the language to disguise what they're doing.

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RUSH: Now, I'm gonna make b>an assumption, and I'm sure that it is applicable to some of you in the audience.
Some of you are probably sitting out there scratching your heads, asking yourself,
"How did this happen?"
I mean, you've heard about gay marriage all your life.
Well, not all your life, but for a long time.
You've heard about homosexuality, and you're aware of militant homosexuality,
and you remember back in the early AIDS days they would file into St. Patrick's and throw condoms at Cardinal O'Connor.

You remember all that, and one day you wake up and it finally hits you
that gay marriage is all of a sudden, out of nowhere, in the Top Five Most Important Issues to everybody under 30, or 35,
and you're wondering,
"How does this happen?
What is going on?"
Some of you might instinctively say,
"It's gonna be the education system.
It's gotta be the media.
It's gotta be Hollywood, television shows, you name it."
I have here a story in the Washington Times.

When I saw this, I thought,
"I better not mention this story.
This is gonna do nothing but get me into trouble,"
because it really is incredible.
But I figured in light of how I have now been made the pope on gay marriage in media and on Twitter and on Facebook -- even C-SPAN!
The next sound bite reports that I am official.
I'm not just a political analyst, but I've also crossed over now.
I am an official celebrity because I influence the celebrity crowd now.
All because of yesterday's program.

Now, this Washington Times story,
if anybody went on the radio, if anybody went on the TV and said this as though it was their own thoughts,
they would be vilified and run out of the country.
But it was published in the Washington Times. I'm gonna read portions of it to you.
It's by a writer named Paul Rondeau, R-o-n-d-e-a-u. Headline: "Hooking Kids on Sex: Start 'Saturation Process' in Kindergarten."

Here are a couple of pull-quotes:
"So if you ever wonder why more and more young people accept homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage as ho-hum, look no further.
.. Young children are encouraged to masturbate and explore their bodies with mirrors to introduce them to sexuality.
[educational video moderator Michael Hichborn] says of the graphic pictures used to 'educate' pre-pubescent children,
'If a dirty old man showed these things to a ten-year-old in a park, he would be arrested.


"But when Planned Parenthood shows them to kids in a classroom, it gets government money.' "
And that's the point of the story, that Planned Parenthood has a program that's promoting "anything-goes sex" to five-year-olds.
"While the White House says sequestration has eliminated funds for children touring the White House,
President Obama has no problem spending $350 million federal tax dollars for sexual indoctrination programs starting in kindergarten for those same children.

"This is not your grandmother's sex education about how things work and what can go 'wrong.'
In fact, the exact opposite is the essence of the Personal Responsibility Education Program (PREP):
Obamacare funnels $75 million annually into PREP,
which must be used exclusively for Planned Parenthood-style 'comprehensive' sex-ed programs
where no type of sex is wrong
and the only sexual behavior [Planned Parenthood] considers 'unsafe' is becoming pregnant.

"More than one-fourth of the funds -- $20 million -- has been awarded to a coalition of six Planned Parenthood affiliates,
operating under the name Northwest Coalition for Adolescent Health,
to implement HHS's TOP program across Montana, Oregon, Idaho, Washington, and Alaska at over 50 sites.
In Oregon schools, Planned Parenthood is paying children cash incentives to participate.
PP is funded with our tax dollars to market sex to our children in our schools
under the guise of sex education, anti-bullying, diversity, and tolerance.

"Once sexualized, those children then become PP sex customers for contraceptives, STD testing, and abortion.
'A glance at the teacher outline for Lesson 1A ... shows exactly how abstinence plays out in the sex-encouraging scheme at Planned Parenthood.
'Abstinence,' it says, 'means choosing not to do any sexual activity that carries a risk for pregnancy or STD/HIV,' says Rita Diller, national director for STOPP.org.
'In other words, abstinence has nothing do with abstaining from sex acts.

"So long as the student avoids STDs and pregnancy, and is comfortable with what he or she is doing, it's an anything goes.'"
It is at this point in the story that even those who thought they knew Planned Parenthood will be shocked.
"American Life League (ALL), released a video titled 'Hooking Kids on Sex,' graphically detailing just what Planned Parenthood sex education is.
It went viral and was viewed almost one-quarter million times in the first week
before a [Planned Parenthood] activist got YouTube to suspend it.


"ALL(AmericanLifeLeague) came back with Hooking Kids on Sex (II).
Even those who thought they knew Planned Parenthood were shocked.
The video's moderator, Michael Hichborn, argues that
[Planned Parenthood] follows the same business model as a drug dealer,"
in the PREP program, Personal Responsibility Education Program, Planned Parenthood.
This is the video that was made to expose the program.
This is not a Planned Parenthood video.
This is a video that people alarmed about this made,
and Planned Parenthood got the video pulled off of YouTube.


(Right mouse click above video and watch in another window)

It's a video that critics made to illustrate what Planned Parenthood is doing as part of Obamacare,
and the moderator of the video is a guy named Michael Hitchborn.
He
"argues that [Planned Parenthood] follows the same business model as a drug dealer:
The Young children are encouraged to masturbate and explore their bodies with mirrors to introduce them to sexuality.
Hichborn says of the graphic pictures used to 'educate' pre-pubescent children,
'If a dirty old man showed these things to a ten-year-old in a park, he would be arrested.

"But when Planned Parenthood shows them to kids in a classroom, it gets government money.' "
I saw that story and said, "I can't tell people this. It's just over the top!
I don't even know if this is true."
I looked into it and that video was on YouTube, and it did get pulled down.
Again, it's not a Planned Parenthood video.
It was a video made by people who found out what's going on in the program to alert people,
and Planned Parenthood succeeded in getting YouTube to pull the video down.

So the Washington Times has the story.
If you're wondering why so many young people seem to have no problem with gay marriage and this or that,
it's 'cause unbeknownst to you (chuckling) kids have been exposed to this for years.
So that's part of the reason.
But it's not the entire reason.
There's also peer pressure, a number of other reasons for it.
It's just the natural evolution of things.
When you are able to blur... It's not even blur.

When you are successful in making fun of and laughing at something as old-fashioned and quaint as morality,
why, then, you are that much ahead.
Then when you play games with the language,
and are able at young ages to convince people that words don't mean what they mean,
and that people that want to hold fast to definitions are bigots,
then you can make serious inroads.
There's another story in the UK Daily Mail.
If this story showed up in the US media somewhere, whoever did it would be drummed out of the media.

Some reporter here for the UK Daily Mail went and found a guy who'd been adopted by two gay parents and was abused for ten years,
but the social workers ignored the complaints because the parents were gay.
Now, that's just one example,
and you can't extrapolate from one example and say this fits the bill for everybody,
but if you look hard enough this is the kind of stuff that is out there in the media.
That's the UK Daily Mail.

There's no pushback on any of it,
and in fact the Politico had that story yesterday quoting two Republican guys saying,
"Yeah, the best thing for the party would be for the court to just make it legal all over the country
and take the issue away
and that way we can't be called bigots."
It boils down to natural evolution of one half of the culture in this country
combined with the fact there's no pushback on where it's headed.
So it's inevitable.
Combined with the fact that they're not gonna let it go.

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RUSH: Okay, to the phones, and it's Claire in Wilmington, Delaware. I'm glad you called.
Great to have you here. Hi.

CALLER: Hi. Uh, I want to make a debate with you.
I don't think we have lost the language.
What I think we have lost in this culture is both our religion and an honest media, and I'll tell you why.
If you appeal to the gay marriage thing on a man's level as a human,
you can make the arguments that make sense.
But if you take it to a biblical perspective that Christians, Jewish people, the Islam faith,
we all unite.
We've lost our God.

We all unite that marriage is between a man and a woman.
But no one seems to want to tie that.
Everyone's afraid to mention God, and I think the media is the other culprit.
Never do you see the media play the people that are against gay marriage, the people that are against abortion.
It's always that they play the people that are for it, and that's the only position you hear.
Now, California is the most liberal state, in my opinion, that's out there.
Maybe Massachusetts, too.

But even as liberal as they are, they united and said,
"We don't want this,"
but they're being overturned.
So that, I think, is trying to discourage people with,
"Oh, I guess everyone really wants it."
Oh, I don't want it. There's a lot of people that don't want this,
and it's not because I have anything against gay people.
I know gay people and I think some of them are wonderful.
But I do believe -- and I don't care how fuddy-duddy I sound -- that from a biblical perspective, marriage is between a man and a woman.

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: They are the two that can create a family.

RUSH: And the way you have just set it up now, in the common...
'Cause the language does matter,
and I'll argue this with you 'til the end of the program.
You are now a bigot by citing religion.

CALLER: You know what, Rush?

RUSH: You are bigoted because
you are wanting to deny happiness and freedom to human beings
who only want what you have in a country that promises them the pursuit of happiness.

CALLER: Rush, you know what?
This is how I feel.
I had to speak at a meeting the other night where I know when I walked out,
I was probably getting snickered at behind my back.
People have gotta get a backbone in this country.
We have allowed God to be removed.
We've allowed the education to be dumbed down.
We have told our children "acceptance"
rather than other people to come into our country for assimilation.
Is it any wonder we're losing our culture?

RUSH: You know what the Jesuits said?
I'm paraphrasing, but the Jesuits used to say,
"Give us a child to the age of 12, and they are ours for life."
Well, the left knows that, too.

CALLER: Well, that's true.
But you know, there used to be a day in this country where there were stay-at-home mothers, and I don't care...
This is another point:
No one's raising a lot of the children today.
There used to be a time when some things they're teaching our children,
you'da had a group of stay-at-home mothers that knew what was going on with the children in their schools in one meeting at the school.

RUSH: You're just confirming what I'm saying.
Wherever it's coming from, there isn't any pushback.

CALLER: Well, that's it.
I don't think the Republican Party and people in general want to push back.
No one wants to be shot down or made to look one way, but if you really believe these things --
and I found the strength in it myself the other night.
If you truly believe it, you can say it, and you don't care if you're laughed at.
You have to go in and just say it.
And, trust me, there are plenty of people that believe this,
and I believe it's still probably 50-50 in the country, or close to those margins,
that you might be able to convince an extra two to three percent you need.
But if you have to speak up.

RUSH: Well, wait a minute, now. Let's talk about that for a second.
What good does this really do?
Let's say that the country is divided 53-47,
but that division is stark and that there is no commonality between the two divisions?
Where are we as a country, anyway, in terms of what you're talking about?
You're saying
we've lost the moral code, we've lost the moral backbone, we've lost the moral foundation.
So where are we as a country?
Even if the morality side could muster a 3% majority victory,
where are we as a country anyway, with that great a division?

CALLER: Well, that I don't know. I don't know how to answer that question.
I guess, if I can make my point in a roundabout way, I'll try to come around to that.

RUSH: Feel free.
No, I'm not trying to argue with you.
You're hitting red buttons for me that are expanding my fertile brain.

CALLER: I AM A CONSERVATIVE. I'm NO LONGER Republican.
There was a time when I believed -- I was foolish -- that Republicans were always right.
I was a fool, and I don't side with a majority of them. I do side with a few of them today.
I like Ted Cruz.
I like some of the people that are fighting for the freedoms.
Rand Paul, sometimes I disagree with on things.
But you have to be able to speak, because there comes a time...
Yes, you look like a fool.
But there comes a time when the opposition that you're speaking against that has the majority --
especially when what they're trying to promote is so false -- will break down.
When it breaks down, people will go back and say,
"Hey, I remember this one saying that."

RUSH: When? When? (crosstalk)
Wait a minute. Well, I've gotta take a break.
I don't have time to ask it.
I've been waiting for it to break down for 35 years, and it's going the other direction.
Nothing's breaking down. That's the whole point.

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RUSH: Hey, Claire in Wilmington, I didn't have a chance to tell you,
but don't change and keep it up.
It's gonna be people like you who will engage in the pushback.
You describe that you have no fear of being laughed at.
Unfortunately, many people who push back get much more than laughed at.
They're targeted for destruction.
Their businesses get boycotts.
I mean, you name it.
So it ends up being much more than that,
and it becomes increasingly more difficult to do the more prominent you become.
But don't change.
Hang in.

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[Yosemitest]

Your reference to Hebrew 8:9-13 WILL HAPPEN, but it hasn't happened yet.
That WILL HAPPEN AFTER Jesus's second coming.
I think the only changes that are current now to the Covenant we have with god is explained in Bread and Wine Ceremony at Passover night.

Remember:

"For the time is come that JUDGMENT MUST BEGIN at the house of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey NOT the gospel of God?"

Remember:

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit,
neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

NOT every one that saith unto me,
Lord, Lord, SHALL ENTER into the kingdom of heaven;
but HE THAT DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day,
Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?
and in thy name have cast out devils?
and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them,
I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.
Therefore whosoever HEARETH these sayings of mine, and DOETH them,
I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house;
and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
And every one that HEARETH these sayings of mine, and DOETH THEM NOT,
shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house;
and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
For he taught them as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.

Think you,

that Jesus came to do away with the Law ?

God forbid !

He came to fulfill it.

[Rusty0604]

Any time a liberal says to me, “pro choice” I say “you mean pro abortion?”. To “working people” I say “you mean unions?”. To “climate change” I say “you mean the formal global warming that didn’t happen?”.

[PapaNew]

No, the New Covenant was instituted at the Cross of Christ, or else you don't understand the gospel of the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. We are now not under the law but under grace. (Rom 6:14).

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-8).

Paul twice repeats the curse on "another gospel" that is not gospel of grace of Christ (Gal. 1:6-9).

We are no longer under the curse of the law (Gal 3:13).

[Yosemitest]

Good way to handle fighting the LEFT's attack on language.
Rush also explained part of our problem fighting the VILE left when he explained the Limbaugh Theorem.

Someone once commented:

"We have to be wise as serpents regarding our dealings with the weasels in the liberal world. "

Uh, I think "ravening wolves" might be a better comparision of the VILE left, than "the weasels in the liberal world."
Just a suggestion.

Now, let me show you something.

The Limbaugh Theorem Expanded to the Republican Establishment

" RUSH: Let me take a stab at something. You know the Limbaugh Theorem.
I think it could be expanded to the Republican establishment in parts, in this sense.
The Republican establishment sometimes acts as if they've never managed anything.
They act as if they don't control the Republican Party today.
They rail against straw men of their own creation.
Andy Card was on Martha MacCallum's show on Fox this morning and was talking about Republican Party has to be "inclusive, not exclusive."

Well, who's been running the Republican Party?
It certainly isn't conservatives.
I mean, who's excluding who?
He didn't name names.
She didn't ask him, "Well, who's being excluded?"
But all I know is, it's not conservatives excluding anybody.
If anybody's being excluded, it is the conservatives.
Yet these establishment guys are coming along and trying to act like
whatever this party has become, they haven't been running it.

Just like whatever's happening to the country, Obama's not running it.
It's an amazing phenomenon!
These guys attack policies that they have contributed to:
Amnesty, debt, growth of government.
I mean, let's admit it.
The Republicans have done their own big spending.
They don't seem to be pushing much of spending cuts.
They're letting Obama have what he wants here,
but they claim all the while to oppose all of this.
Now, don't misunderstand.
I'm not saying these guys are the same as Democrats.

They're not the same as the radical left.

But I am saying that, in many parts, they're not taking responsibility for what's happened.
They go out, they lose elections, and they blame everybody else!
They're running the party. We're not.
Safe to say?
I mean, they're getting the nominees they want and they're losing,
and somehow it's our fault for being "exclusive"?
We're not excluding anybody!
You know, the Republican elites are the same as the Democrat elites,
and they set up these straw men, and they try to act like
everything they're doing is not their doing
and not their responsibility.

So when we as conservatives say,
"Enough is enough!
There has to be at least one political party that represents liberty and property rights and the rule of law,"
the establishment in the party lashes out
and calls us extremists
and then starts complaining that the party isn't a big tent.
All we're talking about is constitutionalism!
Now, don't misunderstand.
I'm not accusing them of being Obama,
but there are similar traits here as applicable to the Limbaugh Theorem.
I will expand on this tomorrow.

I have my little notes I jotted here off to the side, and I'll expand on 'em."

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In short, the GOP is full of VILE members who'll sell us out in a heartbeat!

Here are the ones that I know about.
What do we do when our side is full of TRAITORS?
I submit the following for proof.

"The Republican leadership did not allow the amendment to be considered. "
Here's the Republicans Leadership Internet Page.

Republican Leadership


John Boehner
Speaker of the House





Eric Cantor
Majority Leader





Kevin McCarthy
Majority Whip





Cathy McMorris Rodgers
House Republican Conference Chair





Greg Walden
National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman





Lynn Jenkins
House Republican Conference Vice Chair





Virginia Foxx
House Republican Conference Secretary





James Lankford
Republican Policy Committee Chairman




Click on the links to tell them what you think!

Check out this link, "Senate Republicans Willfully and Knowingly Lie to Their Constituents (vote to fund Obamacare)".

The following Senators voted to pass the continuing resolution even though it still funds Obamacare.
• Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
  
  
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• Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO)
  
  
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If any one of those senators tells you they did not vote to fund Obamacare or, in fact, voted against funding Obamacare,
they are being mendacious.
They may have voted for Ted Cruz’s amendment,
but after it failed,
they still knowingly and willingly voted to fund Obamacare.
And now they are lying to their constituents who call them out on it.

Many of these same Senators are also supporting separate legislation to foist a massive tax increase on the American people.

[Yosemitest]

And which one of those Laws of God, is a curse?

[ASA Vet]

This is a topic on which Rush has no credibility.

Remember Rush is an entertainer and is not particularly bright.

The only thing he really cares about seems to be football, everything else is part of his act.

[wintertime]

Rush also has no credibility because he **consistently** refuses to cover the many stories of the homofascists bullying employees into unemployment, refusing Christians jobs, and suing and boycotting businesses the refuse to bow down and worship the homosexual god.

[ScubieNuc]

Yes, there is some truth to what Rush says about the language thing, but there is one thing that I have to disagree with hi on and that is his absolute demonization of unions. Yes, there are unions that are strangleing their businesses but not all unions are evil. Country Club Republicans like Rush miss this issue all the time. It’s not as black and white as Rush would like to paint it.

[Yosemitest]

Very good graphic.

Remember:
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way,
for [that day will not come] until the rebellion occurs
and the man of LAWLESSNESS is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped,
so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?
And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
For the secret power of LAWLESSNESS is already at work;
but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
And then the LAWLESS ONE will be revealed,
whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth
and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
The coming of the LAWLESS ONE will be in accordance with the work of Satan
displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing.
They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
For this reason God sends them a POWERFUL DELUSION
so that THEY WILL BELIEVE THE LIE
and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth
but have delighted in wickedness.

[Yosemitest]

"It’s not as black and white as Rush would like to paint it."

But it IS "black and white", or rather as simple as "RIGHT or WRONG" !

And the older I get, the more I realize

THERE ARE NO GOOD UNION ORGANIZATIONS !
There are only COMMUNISTS UNIONS!

[ScubieNuc]

Well, then you don’t understand it either. I am a conservative Christian and I am also in a union. Many of my co-workers are also conservatives and vote Republican. Where I live it is fairly rural and there are industries, but the ones that are not unionized pay their skilled laborers bare-bones wages while at the same time the bosses are rolling in it. With the company I work for, the union allows us skilled workers to make adequate wages to support a family while at the same time the upper management makes more, they aren’t “rolling in it” like the private firms.

There is right and wrong, but unions aren’t alone in being greedy and selfish. Many rich business owners, who have made it over the “new company” hump, pad their own wallets while throwing crumbs to the workers who do the physical work. If you don’t see the evil on that end then you are blind and I will pray for you.

[PapaNew]

And which one of those Laws of God, is a curse?

Why don't you let God's Word tell you?

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree. (Galatians 3:13 referencing the curse in Deut. 21:23.)

[Yosemitest]

Does your UNION pay incentives for those who do superior work?
Does your UNION assist non-UNION members?
I used to be a UNION member in the FAA.
I'm retired military and have worked with many UNION people throughout the years.
Before that, I cut meat for a living for several years.
I KNOW about UNIONS.
THERE ARE NO GOOD UNIONS, only MONEY ROBBING THIEVES DUPING THEIR MEMBERS OUT OF THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY!
There are plenty of businesses paying well and remaining inbiusiness BECAUSE they are NON-UNION.
You've been brain-washed and are too stupid to know it!

[Yosemitest]

Again I ask,

And which one of those Laws of God, is a curse?

You have NOT answered my question, but only avoided it.
Christ did take our sins upon Himself, and Sin IS a curse.
But the Law of God?

Think you,

that Jesus came to do away with the Law ?

God forbid !

A wise man one said in a meeting I attended in person:

Sin is the breaking of God's law.
Repenting of sin means being sorry you have broken God's law.
If you are sorry, it means you do not intend breaking His law any further!
Let's illustrate it this way:
You live in a society which must be regulated according to various laws.
There are federal, state, county and local laws which regulate practically every act and deed.
Whether we are speaking here of federal laws, civil codes or simply traffic laws, the same principle applies.

You are required in order to retain your freedom and your citizenship to obey the laws of our country.
If you break some of them, it may only require a fine or a very small penalty, or even a warning, and you will be allowed to remain free.

Breaking others can be far more serious.
Grand theft, larceny, arson, robbery, burglary, auto theft or murder could get you thrown behind bars
(not withstanding the terrible laxity of the courts today).

Let's suppose you have done precisely this.

Maybe, caught up in an emotional state with wrong companions, you perpetrate some act which is clearly against the law.
Let's assume you are arrested and in due time brought to trial.
But, during the trial, just as the judge has imposed upon you a terrific fine which you would never be able to pay— say, a million dollars—
a completely unknown stranger, your benefactor, stands and says,
"Your honor, I believe this man is seriously contrite.
I believe he got caught up in the emotion of the moment and was under the influence of some evil companions.
I feel he is a man of integrity and wishes truly to mend his ways and live a better life.

"Therefore, I am willing to pay his fine myself so he can go free, and he doesn't need to pay this penalty!"

Although it probably wouldn't happen in our society, it does illustrate the point.
The judge (as a type of God the Father) would say to the benefactor (who is a type of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for our own sins),
"That will be fine!
You may step up and pay the court $1 million and we will write on the court records
that the man who has been accused is free to go."

Then the judge may look at you, the person who has been arrested, tried and sentenced, and say,
"You are free to go.
But don't ever get caught up in that kind of a situation again!"

Do you see?

You are required, as a citizen of a free country, to obey its laws, or else

In the case of God's divine laws, you are required, whether you know about them or not (ignorance of the law is no excuse), whether you are a Christian, a professing Christian or whatever, to obey God's Ten Commandments.

Though people by the millions freely break the Ten Commandments every single day, they are unknowingly coming under the penalty of the law, which is death! (Romans 6:23).

When you repent, you are saying to God you are deeply sorry you have broken His laws.

Jesus Christ of Nazareth as the counsel for the defense says to God, the Righteous Judge, that He believes in your profession of repentance
and is willing to allow His own sacrifice to be applied in your case!

Then, just as Jesus said to the woman taken in the very act of adultery, God will say the same thing to you,
"Neither do I condemn thee; go and sin no more!"


True repentance, then, means
being deeply sorry you have broken God's Ten Commandments,
resolving through the power of God's Holy Spirit and the help of Jesus Christ as your daily High Priest and Intercessor,
not to break the Ten Commandments henceforth.

Don't fall into Satan's deception of believing that God's Laws , The Ten Commandments are done away with.

[ScubieNuc]

Your hatred is blinding you which is what the master of evil desires. You are throwing out the baby with the bath water.

By the way, I too am a military veteran, so while I appreciate everyone that placed their life on the line for this country, I completely disagree with you that ALL unions are nothing but evil.

[wildbill]

Once the argument on gay marriage went from homosexuality/sodomy to ‘fairness’ and “equality “ on the rights of citizens, the rhetorical argument was lost.

Personally, I don’t think the world will end when the gays get the right to marry. Straight people will continue to marry and raise children, won’t they?

[PGalt]

Nice. GRRRRRREAT idea, Rusty0604! Thanks for the links info in post#25, Yosemitest.

[ScubieNuc]

One other thing I just thought about from your post...you said that you are retired military and I’m assuming your proud of that, but the negative questions you asked about my union could be asked about the military...

Did your branch of service pay incentives for superior work? (Answer...NO!)
Did your branch of service assist civilian equivilants? (As in did electricians from the Navy go and assist local electricians at no cost? The answer is NO, except in emergencies and that is the same as unions.)

As you well know, just like in unions, there is dead weight in the military that gets advanced and gives the military a bad name. Unions aren’t perfect, but neither is any other organization, military included.

[PapaNew]

Your argument is with God’s Word, not me. God’s Word calls it the curse of the law. The specific curse mentioned in Galatians 3:13 is in Deuteronomy 21:31. BTW, there’s a whole bunch of other curses associated with the law in Deuteronomy also.