Skip to comments.Democrats push bill in Congress to require gun insurance under penalty of fine
Posted on 04/02/2013 9:36:35 AM PDT by Wiggins
A New York Democratic lawmaker is behind a national push that would force gun owners to buy liability insurance or face a $10,000 fine.
The Firearm Risk Protection Act, pushed by Rep. Carolyn Maloney and seven co-sponsors, follows efforts at the state level to create the controversial new kind of insurance for gun owners.
"For too long, gun victims and society at large have borne the brunt of the costs of gun violence," Maloney said in a written statement. "My bill would change that by shifting some of that cost back onto those who own the weapons."
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Sure, just as long as the equivalent fee is charged for voting.
I have written to everyone I can think of on this horrible and discriminatory idea.
In this state, if passed, it could cost law-abiding gun owners thousands of dollars for this insurance. I will not comply.
I pray that the people will remember this when the 2014 elections come around.
“Gun Insurance” is not only an affront to law-abiding citizens, but it’s a bloody back-door registration scheme.
DemonRATS do NOT support the 2nd Amendment, never have since Reconstruction Days.
RINOs don’t support the 2nd Amendment, either.
One notes that every punitive firearm-related law proposed will impose a burden on peaceful, law-abiding, citizens while having no effect on the criminal class.
I know, I know, lets force criminals to carry insurance for the crimes they are going to commit.
dats the ticket
Uh Huh...THEN the fed will go into the ‘gun ins.’ business, right!?
Wall-to-wall Obamacare accross the board. I want to throw up!
These people have learned nothing.
It’s gotta be a ‘tax’. That way Roberts will vote to uphold it when the lawsuit reaches the Supreme Court.
If I DO recall correctly, this additional 'fund' would be double dipping for the gunshot victim or victim's family while adding an (unecesary) burden onto the gun owner.
Just thinkin' out load and probably have my facts a little screwed up.
I aint got any guns..
Name an insurance company which would actually sell the policies.
Even if there was a company willing to sell insurance, the Dems, by driving the company out of business, would then have an effective gun ban.
So....how would they know who has guns and thus required to own said insurance????/
To second an earlier post.. “Revive the Poll Tax” seems to be what Dems want.
Backdoor effort to reduce the number of gun owners.
Millions of Americans purchase or drive cars without insurance, many of them illegal aliens.
They inflict billions of dollars of property damage and kill or permanently disable thousands of people.
The Democrats response.....
I’ll set one up. With 150 million guns in the US, and the tiny number that are used in crime that would be owned by people that actually bought insurance, whoever sells it will be filthy rich....
The criminals will get the insurance charge dropped because it will discriminate against Blacks just like Bartley-Fox was.
Will gangs get Group rates?
As a lifelong runner, I also want insurance on kids with racing bikes.
As I tell my family.....
“If I don’t come home one day, it will not be a heart attack. It’ll be some kid on a bike who slammed me into oncoming traffic.”
Probably a plan behind this one to have "single-payer".
Same as 0bamacare except instead of health care it’s guns. ARE THEY SURE THIS ISN’T A TAX?
Solson~:” So....how would they know who has guns and thus required to own said insurance????/ “
The IRS would conduct an ‘inventory’ of insurance companies to
make sure that they were accurately reporting profits and coverage,
thus gaining access to business records.
That sounds much simplier and would not be resisted by smaller companies
who are not represented by any political lobbying groups
This still represents backdoor registration
with government (indirect ) oversight
The govt already has a lot of access to insurance company data.
Wonder how she’s going to get the gang bangers to buy the insurance?
So this would mean, that this bill would place worth on Human life @ $1 million! Could this not set a precedent on all loss of Human life due to other circunstances.
If it was proven the perp just happened to pick the wrong house, intending for it to be the neighbor house, one weaponless and an easy target, and you did not verify why the perp was in your house and had the wrong directions from his GPS, your insurance would have to pay off.
Any number of them. Why wouldn't they? Insurance is mandatory here for autos. And we cannot shop for best deals with out of state companies. All insurance companies charge the same rates by mandate of The State.
And even if no current insurance company would, then it would be 'sold' by the yet to be created "Commonwealth of Massachusetts Department of Public Safety Insurance Division".
The Democrat talking points:
Voter ID: too restrictive and burdensome on the public to have to go through such a rigorous process; would disenfranchise tens of thousands.
Abortion Notifications/Information: too restrictive and burdensome on women - interferes with rights of privacy and it’s the government interfering between the rights of a women and her doctor. (Don’t even get me started on Obamacare)
Gun registration: Necessary for a peaceful society; must save the children.
Gun insurance: must transfer the societal costs of gun violence to the [lawful] gun owners.
I think it’s way past time to start hitting back to expose the hypocrisy.
They can also force gun owners like myself with permits to submit insurance I.D. cards and have the insurance companies notify the county or state when or if the insurance lapses. Like some states do with motor vehicle insurance. Then they could fine people $10K and suspend their pistol permit until they come up with the cash. After a certain period of time you lose your gun, permit and still have to pay the fine or get arrested. If gun registration is ever passed they could enact this policy on every gun owner that obeys the gun registration law. Anyone caught with an unregistered, uninsured gun gets arrested and fined. These people are out of control.
Many insurance companies will refuse to cover firearms, or businesses which focus on firearms.
Hey Kim Il Jong. I hear Obama’s talking about your mama and he doesn’t think you have the guts to fire a nuke at the WH...: )
Next they’ll want the same for my English Long Bow and Forged Steel Tip arrows.
I don’t know everything about the biz but I know how businesses get set up in MA. One does not open their doors without liability insurance. FFLs must have it like everyone else. Those companies who sell coverage are probably already working on the actuarials...if they haven’t already.
Wasn’t there a time when congress passed a tax on printer’s ink, and this was found unconstitutional - for it suppressed the first amendment?
In a sane world, this would apply to second amendment as well.
Looks like they found some new spending money.
I know the answer to this question before I ask it, (making it rhetorical) but what do Freepers think as to Baloney’s constitutional justification for this legislation?
Perhaps from the area in her twat where she stores her other bright ideas?
“Thou shall not infringe”
If there is a gun tax, then there certainly must be a poll tax
It’s a RIGHT, people. You cannot place monetary conditions on a right. Right to vote, right to worship w/o registering yourself as a Methodist or whatever, right to read (or publish) w/o getting gov’t approval, etc.
We have a government ruling us, most of the members of which don’t even have a clue about our Constitution. And most of them are f’ing lawyers! And our citizens - or subjects - aren’t any better informed.
Ignorance is deadly. Sorry, I’m ranting, but I just woke up and I’m not ready for this.
‘We’re not going to violate your rights, we’re just going to charge you for using them...and if you don’t pay up, you’re gonna be in trouble.’
Didn’t the mafia used to do something like this?
ALLOW THEM TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES THEY MUST
AIds cost a bundle.
Register and require gays to get insurance.
Obama only wants you to raise your arm to a 45 degree angle and repeat the following: “Seig Heil”
If they don’t know who owns guns, how can they make you purchase insurance for them?
I lost all my guns on a trip down the Yukon River.
CCW permits in 49 States might give them a clue...
If the Feds can pressure the States into giving up the data.
Then, we will be not far from the free speech insurance law under the obama regime.
Gays should pay for liability insurance.
AIDS costs far more than gun violence.
“I pray that the people will remember this when the 2014 elections come around.”
We will not.
We will focus on the shoes our candidates once owned and find 12 reasons not to support them.
ANYONE can walk into any room filled with conservatives and split them into 7 different factions.
That’s why we lost the culture wars.
Ignorance is deadly
D.C.proves it every day.
Wiggins ~:” They can also force gun owners like myself with permits to submit insurance I.D. cards
and have the insurance companies notify the county or state when or if the insurance lapses.
Like some states do with motor vehicle insurance.”
As originally proposed in New York State ~ they will confsicate
Then like an automobile , it will go into the “pound” whereby the fine will be so high , you will default on the firearm ..
then they win ! Subtrefuge confiscation.