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Pentagon to Buy Russian Helicopters Despite Ban
RIANOVISTA ^ | 4/4/2013 | Maria Young

Posted on 04/06/2013 3:52:53 AM PDT by autumnraine

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Why are we paying these people? They are obviously useless and we have lost a branch. Let me guess, someone will say something about it. And that will be about it.
1 posted on 04/06/2013 3:52:53 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

I want to buy a gun from my enemy in hopes that it will work in the event that I may have to use it against him. Mental illness, deliberate treasonous bastards or both


2 posted on 04/06/2013 3:56:43 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: autumnraine

Geez

And some say this guy was the better of the two options we had last election.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 3:58:10 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: autumnraine

Congress means nothing. Good to have that confirmed.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 3:59:39 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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And they wonder why there are so few jobs in the USA? The USA buying Russian helicopters? Insanity run amok. That's what happens when the RATS are in power, supported by spineless/gutless Pubbie political hacks.
5 posted on 04/06/2013 4:06:17 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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6 posted on 04/06/2013 4:06:26 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: autumnraine
Isn't "BYPASSING a CONGRESSIONAL BAN" ILLEGAL????

If any of you doubt it...we a BANANA REPUBLIC.

7 posted on 04/06/2013 4:11:16 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: autumnraine

My take on this is we shouldn’t buy the Russian helicopters because they are supplying weapons to Assad, while we are supplying weapons to the Rebels.

If the Russian helicopters will get our men out of Afghanistan any faster buy them.

Of course the argument that the Congress mans nothing is a legitimate argument. The Congress today is made up of thieves and suck butts.They are there merely for show and to take their share of the pork money that keeps them there.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 4:21:56 AM PDT by Venturer
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Dumb bunch of a-holes, weren’t they?


9 posted on 04/06/2013 4:22:26 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: autumnraine

“WE THE PEOPLE” no longer means jack squat!


10 posted on 04/06/2013 5:05:05 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: autumnraine

prosecute whoever willingly violates the law prohibiting such purchase


11 posted on 04/06/2013 5:09:24 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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“The US Department of Defense said Thursday it plans to sidestep a Congressional ban....”

You gotta’ wonder how this is even possible - Zero “side-steps” Congress A LOT - and there is no recourse?

Will we even make it to 2016?


12 posted on 04/06/2013 5:10:53 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: autumnraine

Sheesh don’t any of these idiots know that the lifespan of Russian helicopters is measured in hundreds of flight hours not thousands


13 posted on 04/06/2013 5:13:35 AM PDT by usmcobra (Happiness is a belt fed weapon.)
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Six Hundred Ninety Million Dollars for 30 helicopters to afghanistan.......

If this government, and I use that term loosely, is just going to piss money down a rat hole, why can't it be my rat hole?

14 posted on 04/06/2013 5:20:39 AM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: autumnraine

Are we really that stupid—or is it worse than mere stupidity?


15 posted on 04/06/2013 5:24:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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So America doesn’t make helicopters anymore?

DeLauro asks Pentagon about Russian helicopter deal

WASHINGTON — It’s not easy to find an issue that can leave both Connecticut Democrat Rep. Rosa DeLauro and Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn equally outraged.

But the Pentagon paying $17 million apiece for a fleet of Russian helicopters certainly does the trick.

The Defense Department wants to spend taxpayers’ money to buy 30 more Russian-made Mi-17 helicopters to give to the Afghan army, through what is effectively a no-bid contract that blocks competing bids from such American helicopter manufacturers as Sikorsky, Bell and Boeing.

Stratford-based Sikorsky, which makes the comparable S-61 craft, has strongly advocated to the U.S. government “that U.S. aircraft manufacturers are more than capable of delivering affordable and reliable helicopters for the Afghan mission.” In a statement, Sikorsky said: “Given the opportunity, we would like to compete.” The S-61 is a cargo and passenger craft widely used around the world by governments and private firms.

But the Pentagon has narrowed its Afghanistan proposal in a way that eliminates American helicopters.

After Cornyn complained that the Pentagon hadn’t opened up the helicopter acquisition program to other bidders, Frank Kendall, the Pentagon’s acquisition chief, said the Defense Department would ask U.S. firms about “their ability to provide airworthy, armed Mi-17 aircraft for use by the Afghan military.”

Because no U.S. firms make the Mi-17, the Kendall letter amounted to a blunt rebuff to Congress and the U.S. helicopter industry.

To date, the Pentagon has bought about 70 of the Russian-made Mi-17s for the Afghan military. The new Pentagon plan to buy 30 more has riled some members of Congress who are asking Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel for an explanation.

The lawmakers also are irked that the Mi-17 helicopters would be supplied to Afghanistan by Russian official state arms broker Rosoboronexport, the same firm that furnishes weapons to embattled Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad.

Led by DeLauro, 10 House members have written Hagel to suggest that the Pentagon’s purchase would be a violation of the National Defense Authorization Act that Congress and President Barack Obama enacted last year. The act included a provision sponsored by DeLauro and Cornyn specifically barring any Pentagon dealings with Rosoboronoexport, though the measure allows the secretary of defense to waive that provision if such a waiver was “in the national security interests of the United States with respect to the capacity of the Afghan National Security Forces.”

Read more: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/DeLauro-asks-Pentagon-about-Russian-helicopter-4395968.php#ixzz2PgeUQIqm


16 posted on 04/06/2013 5:48:00 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: autumnraine

This must be just one example of that “flexibility” Obama told the Russians he would have after the election.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 5:54:50 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("The lesser of two evils is, by definition, evil." - Josh Painter)
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To: ilovesarah2012

buy American so when the radicals take over in the very near future like they did in Iran under Jimmy Carter ( notice a pattern here ) and turn against us, they will have a hard time finding parts.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 6:25:15 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: elpadre

“After the election, I will have more flexibility.” - message transmitted comrad


19 posted on 04/06/2013 6:32:49 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: ronnie raygun

Hey, Russians make good helicopters! Why not buy them and use em—Or we could be like the Chinese, buy one and copy them.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 6:43:35 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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