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To: AndyTheBear
If FDR’s response really was motivated by some overt prejudice against Jews, then that is what I would fault him for. But, I had not heard before that FDR had such a prejudice, and I wonder if the author is fair and accurate in his characterization of the private remarks which he uses to build his case. I am not ready to be convinced one way or another on this without more details.

No one has to be prejudiced to be against admitting large numbers of foreign refugees, potential genocide victims or not, whether they are Jews, South West African Hereros, Cambodians, Rwandan Tutsis, Iraqi Christians, Egyptian Copts or Burmese Rohingyans. Was FDR less prejudiced against Japanese Americans, the Chinese, the Gypsies, the Slavs and so on? Tens of millions of Chinese were killed by Imperial Japan without any suggestion that FDR should have imported millions of them in to keep them safe. Ditto with Gypsies and Slavs who were slaughtered like sheep by Nazi Germany.

18 posted on 04/07/2013 9:29:17 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I think part of it is the sense that Jews for the most part are productive people who make contributions in all areas...however, some of the hesitation may have been based on the perception that many were adherents of socialism.


19 posted on 04/07/2013 9:31:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zhang Fei

The author himself did not argue that FDR’s policies alone were sufficient to make the case that he was prejudiced against Jews. Rather the arguments he made rested heavily on some supposed private statements FDR made. As for myself, as I said before, I would fault FDR on being overtly prejudice if he really was so, but do not know if the author is being fair and accurate in his representation of FDR’s quotes.


34 posted on 04/07/2013 10:40:20 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Zhang Fei
No one has to be prejudiced to be against admitting large numbers of foreign refugees, potential genocide victims or not

That's true, no one has to. But FDR was, and he and the (Arabist) British foreign service wouldn't let them into Palestine, either. So their boats foundered, or they were turned back to Europe and were killed by the Germans.

At the same time, liberals (who may not know they got their talking points from the KGB) are all over Pope Pius XII for "not doing enough" to help Italian Jews, when in fact he personally set in motion a campaign to hide Jews in Italian convents and seminaries and get Italian passports for tens of thousands of them. Between one measure and another, it's estimated Pius XII saved 490,000 Jews. The Chief Rabbi of Rome converted to Catholicism after the War, and took the baptismal name "Eugenio" (the Pope's given name) in his honor.

I actually don't fault Roosevelt for sequestering the Nisei, a percentage of whom really were security risks—or rather, their Japanese-born parents and grandparents were (according to memoirs I've read by Nisei). But he really was a maniac who acted as if he had no fear of God.

37 posted on 04/07/2013 10:43:59 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Zhang Fei

Excellent post

God I love a clear thinker

I’m no FDR lover but that Jew hater hat is such bullshit

Just like Obama....the same smear yet outside the Michelle Jarrett inner core he is surrounded by prog Jews

Obama hates Israeli Likud hawks

But adores his socialist Jewish comrades

They call Churchill a Jew hater too....and again utter nonsense

The well of victim hood...the pail is never dry


53 posted on 04/07/2013 11:18:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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