Skip to comments.Marco Rubio goes all-in on immigration bill
Posted on 04/12/2013 8:39:16 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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O’Reilly: So you’re President of the United States - Sarah Palin. You send how many National Guards to the border right away to secure it?
Palin: However many you need - this is the top priority. This is a national security issue..
O’Reilly: (interrupts) Alright, but I’m talking Texas, California, New Mexico, all of ‘em. So, you send maybe ten , fifteen thousand national guards down there to assist the border control. Yes?
Palin: Whatever it takes, whatever it takes.
O’Reilly: Alright, so you militarize the border, ah, you, you finish the fence. Finish building the fence from Brownsville to San Diego. Yes?
O’Reilly: Now we have twelve million people staring at you. And you say to those people, you’re in here illegally, you broke civil law - by coming in here. Um, now are you going to deport them? What are you going to do?
Palin: Well, again, we, first let me go back to the importance of securing the border. If we start talking about amnesty before...
O Reilly (interrupts) No, no, well, we got that, we got that, Governor. Everybody...All Factor people watching this
Palin: (interrupts) No, we don’t.
O Reilly (interrupts) Yeah, the people watching this program have it. We have it. We assume that you - as president - would secure the border. I’ve confidence you would do that. But now you have to look into it. Alright and you’ve got 12 million people staring at you. What are you going to have them do?
Palin: You’re not going to give them a free pass.You’re not going to say - ok - you and, ah, anybody else who wants to scree across this porous border between now and when we do finally get it fenced in and physically secure - we’re going to give you a free pass. And just because you’ve broken laws in the past know we can trust you...
O Reilly: (interrupts) Alright , no amnesty.
Palin: No - no amnesty - which means
O Reilly: (interrupts) But what do you do with these folks? Do you make them register with the federal government? Do you tell them they have sixty days to get outta here before we put you in jail? What do we do with them?
Palin: Do we make them register with the Federal government? Yes, we do. We have to
O Reilly. (interrupts) Yes, so we know who they, where they are...
Palin: Yes, exactly. So in answer to that question, absolutely. We ‘re not giving them a free pass. We’re not going to reward the bad behavior.
O Reilly: (interrupts) Alright, So you don’t reward the bad behavior. You make them register with the federal government. Say you give them sixty days to register with the fed gov., there’s a form at the Post Office they have to send like a census form, alright. Say they don’t do it? Alright.
Palin: You deport them.
O Reilly: (interrupts) Ok so After a period of time, the ones that don’t cooperate then you catch them, they’re gone. Now you have these people that register. You are going to have millions of them. Then they register and they say - ok we obeyed what President Palin told us to do -then what? - do you give them green cards to work right away, what do you do with them?
Palin: You know there has to be that expectation that they will work and that they will contribute. Bill, It makes me uncomfortable that we’re even going down that path so far when ...
O Reilly: (interrupts)You have to though.
Palin: No, no
O Reilly: (interrupts) You have to go down that path, it’s gonna come up.
Palin: No. American citizens who are - who are here lawfully - they need to be the ones with the first shot at getting these jobs. We cannot make it easy on those who have chosen to be illegal - illegally here, to disobey our laws. No!
O Reilly: No, we can’t make it easy, but they’re here and we can’t starve them to death. And If they can’t work, if they don’t have a green card to work, ah, they’re gonna be hosed. I mean they gotta pay rent, they gotta buy groceries, this, that and the other thing. I mean this is where it gets very complicated, Governor. You know it gets very, very complicated - because you are rewarding bad behavior. You let them stay in the United States because they came in illegally.
Palin: Then let’s keep it, then, then we won’t complicate it any more. Let’s keep it simple. And let’s say no that if you are here illegally, if you don’t follow the steps that at some point in immigration reform that we are going to be able to provide that will allow you somehow to be able to work - if you are not going to do that, then you will be deported. You will be gone.
O Reilly: (interrupts) Ok, we’ve established that. We’ve established that though.
Palin: Let’s look at case history, let’s look at case history. Let’s look at what political hero, Ronald Reagan tried to do with three million illegals all those years ago.
O Reilly: (interrupts) He botched it though governor. Reagan botched it. He botched it.
Palin: Exactly, that’s what I’m saying. So that’s what I’m saying, so we learn from history. We won’t do what, what he did in that respect in that round.
O Reilly: No but you’re gonna have to - whoever the next president is, is going to have to deal with 12 million people and that is going to be very, very difficult
As with most O’Reilly interviews, that one seems more about what O’Reilly thinks than what Palin thinks. O’Reilly thinks they have to get a green card, they have to be allowed to be given jobs or they will starve. Palin seems to be saying they don’t deserve the job’s citizen’s can do. If O’Reilly would ask a question and let the person answer instead of telling them how they should think, this confusion wouldn’t exist.
Rubio is a stealth commie. He'll run as a Democrat, because there won't be a Republican Party when this Gang of 14, or 16, or whatever finishes with it.
Cheap shot, warchild.
And the entire concept of "hate speech" was born in the liberal camp.
So, you are now in charge of reading other people's minds. How does it feel to dip your toe in the waters of liberalism?
For what it's worth, how else do you explain it if Rubio caves in on the need to first have absolute control of entry into this nation via border, airports, visas, etc.?
This has been the conservative position for well over a decade. It is not only a conservative position, but it is also common sense. If the horses are getting out of the corral because the gate is open, is that the time to insist that they must be trained to the saddle before you get around to shutting the gate?
Shame on you for resorting to liberal tactics!
This isn't about what O'Reilly is saying but what Palin is saying. I detest O'Reilly but he is just pointing out the obvious contradictions in what Palin is saying.
Palin is trying to stick to the amnesty supporters playbook, but her logic is flawed and the more she is pressed, the more it becomes obvious.
Why does she want the illegals to register? What is the incentive for them to register? Here is the money quote:
O Reilly: No, we cant make it easy, but theyre here and we cant starve them to death. And If they cant work, if they dont have a green card to work, ah, theyre gonna be hosed. I mean they gotta pay rent, they gotta buy groceries, this, that and the other thing. I mean this is where it gets very complicated, Governor. You know it gets very, very complicated - because you are rewarding bad behavior. You let them stay in the United States because they came in illegally.
Palin: Then lets keep it, then, then we wont complicate it any more. Lets keep it simple. And lets say no that if you are here illegally, if you dont follow the steps that at some point in immigration reform that we are going to be able to provide that will allow you somehow to be able to work - if you are not going to do that, then you will be deported. You will be gone.
This is amnesty, i.e., allowing the lawbreakers to stay and work here, the object of their crime. Palin is using the same system of registration that was contained in the 950 page 2007 McCain-Kennedy bill (Z visa) that immediately legalizes the status of the lawbreakers. The Rubio Gang 0f 8 bill contains the same immediate legalization of the lawbreakers. It will take years to do background checks, but in the meantime they will be allowed to stay and work here legally.
These politicians try to deceive us thru language. They need to be pressed by the media and not allowed to get away with focus group responses. Univision did that with Palin and to a lesser extent so did O'Reilly. Anyone knowledgeable about the subject could tear away this cloak of deception and expose the illogical and false statements made by the politicians who think we are dumb. Palin is an amnesty supporter
Count me in!
BTW, that race baiting attack on you, appears to be a bad habit.