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Who mailed live explosive to Sheriff Joe?
World Net Daily ^ | 4/12/2013 | Staff

Posted on 04/13/2013 4:14:02 AM PDT by IbJensen

Authorities have confirmed that an apparent bomb addressed to Maricopa, Ariz., County Sheriff Joe Arpaio was uncovered and diverted, and now investigators are beginning to look into a list of his enemies for any links or connections.

Those who have had conflicts with him, those who might be coming under investigation, those who have been unsuccessful in fights with him.

That should be a job.

Arpaio, who has described himself as the “toughest sheriff in America,” has had conflicts over the past few years with advocates for illegal immigration, those who don’t like his enforcement of state laws in Arizona, and those who don’t like him investigating certain topics, including the validity of Barack Obama’s birth documentation. Others don’t like him because he’s been aggressive in fighting the war on illegal immigration in his border state, and his stand on law-and-order.

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Investigating Obama

A situation that earned Arpaio piles of hate mail developed when a group of his county’s residents asked him to look into the validity of the documents through which Barack Obama claims to be eligible for the Oval Office.

Entire books have been written about the problems with the “birth certificate” that was released by the White House purportedly documenting Obama’s birth in Hawaii.

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The special cold case posse investigators said there is probable cause to believe there was forgery in the creation of the birth document presented and fraud in its presentation to the people of Arizona as a valid document.

Christopher Monckton of Brenchley found himself agreeing, after going through the probabilities that each of the anomalies in the document was a random error.

He said he figured the chances of all of those circumstances simply developing at one in 62,500,000,000,000,000,000. (That’s 62.5 quintillion).

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; arpaio; arpaioforag; az; civilrights; copkiller; cultureofcorruption; dncbrownshirts; domesticterrorism; fastandfurious; illegalimmigration; injusticedepartment; joearpaio; maricopa; militantleft; naturalborncitizen; sheriffjoe; sherrifarpaio
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To: 0.E.O

Go ahead. Here are your declarations. Have at it. I’m sure we all look forward to being educated by the expert. We’ll wait.

-Evidence of the dart would be left behind.
-A fatal dose (of KCl) for someone like Arpiao would be about 2 teaspoons and would have to be administered into a vein to be effective.
-In order for KCl to be lethal in doses small enough to fit into this dart then it has to be injected intravenously.


101 posted on 04/14/2013 8:26:43 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: 0.E.O

And while you’re at it, since you kept using your “vein” argument, you may want to explain your apparent premise that it would be difficult for a trained assassin to find an intravenous point of entry.


102 posted on 04/14/2013 8:34:56 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: butterdezillion

You’re not thinking big enough. So far, we know they can kill anyone they please via cancer and/or heart attacks. But you only think they’ve used it a couple times! Based on the total lack of evidence, I think we can indirectly prove that thousands of people are being assassinated.


103 posted on 04/14/2013 11:28:22 PM PDT by Domalais
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To: butterdezillion
If that testifier was telling the truth, would you consider this a serious issue? How serious? Why?

No. Not serious at all. Because the whole concept is ridiculous.

104 posted on 04/15/2013 3:42:25 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Nita Nupress
And while you’re at it, since you kept using your “vein” argument, you may want to explain your apparent premise that it would be difficult for a trained assassin to find an intravenous point of entry.

So you think that hitting a vein dead center through clothing at long range, which it has to be since the pistol has a scope on it, would not be hard? You think that the impact of a dart traveling fast enough to penetrate skin and vein would not be noticed by the person it hit? You think that the frozen dart would not be melted by whatever propellant was used to shoot it? If you believe that then nothing I can ever do will convince you otherwise.

105 posted on 04/15/2013 3:49:35 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Domalais; butterdezillion

Maybe not thousands.

But a few.

Brietbart suffered a ‘heart attack’ after engaging a known democratic operative that he seemed to have no previous dealings with.

Relatively young people have heart attacks all the time of course. But few then have their ME photographer killed by arsenic afterwards.

Looking at key figures pasts it seems Valerie Jarrett’s past includes some unfortunate heart attack victims - i.e. her ex-husband and his next wife.

Of course county sheriffs are also threatened all the time. But few have bombs mailed to them in the style of known radicals of the 1970s also.

Maybe old habits are hard to break.


106 posted on 04/15/2013 4:10:39 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: Nita Nupress
-Evidence of the dart would be left behind.

Common sense. Something has to inject the poison into the person. Freezing the poison and shooting it like a projectile is scientifically impossible. It would have to be about the width of a hair. How do you put a ballistic spin on that to ensure accuracy? How do you shoot it and not have it melt? How does it not melt in the gun while waiting to be shot?

-A fatal dose (of KCl) for someone like Arpiao would be about 2 teaspoons and would have to be administered into a vein to be effective.

I'd estimate that Arpiao weighs in about about 250. A dose of potassium chloride taken orally with a 50 percent chance of being fatal is 2.5 grams per kilogram. A dose of potassium chloride injected intravenously with a 50 percent chance of being fatal is 30 milligrams per kilogram. So orally you're talking about 300 grams to be 50 percent fatal, 600 grams to be 100 percent fatal. That's almost 22 ounces. For intravenously you're talking 3600 milligrams to be 50 percent sure that its fatal, 7200 milligrams to be 100 percent sure. But again, that requires it to be administered right into the vein. What are the odds of that from a dart shot at long range?

Like I said, Google is your friend.

107 posted on 04/15/2013 4:38:09 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Domalais

How would we prove anything? That’s all I’m asking you, and you won’t respond except with silliness. Why do you do that? Do you think this is not a serious situation, or do you have another agenda here?


108 posted on 04/15/2013 5:31:05 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: 0.E.O

The concept is ridiculous? So was the concept of the Twin Towers being hit by terrorists, on 9-10-01.

Everybody saying it could never happen here is what allowed it to happen here.

That is the essential concept of this country’s founding: that the only way to ensure liberty is to make it impossible for the bastards who want to destroy it, by putting a gun behind every rock and tree, and by making the people able to know what was being done and vote accordingly. Anything less than that yields a 100% probability of absolute corruption.

That’s our Founding Fathers, and they were pretty darn smart.


109 posted on 04/15/2013 5:36:25 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: bluecat6

Like you so, maybe so...


110 posted on 04/15/2013 5:38:31 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Oops. Like you SAY, maybe so.

I do like you so but that’s beside the point. =)


111 posted on 04/15/2013 5:39:24 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Nita Nupress

He’s not gonna engage. He says even if this technology was available it would be no big deal because the concept is absurd. Being able to assassinate people without anybody knowing it was murder is no big deal to this guy. It’s just what every murdererer or potential murderer on the face of the planet has been trying to come up with...

Unbelievable. If that is “no problem” then I wonder what WOULD be a problem, according to him.


112 posted on 04/15/2013 5:47:12 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Domalais

BTW, which Fogbow identity are you? You guys all smell the same so it’s hard to tell.


113 posted on 04/15/2013 5:48:29 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

If a technology exists that allows the government to kill people with zero evidence left behind, there is nothing to be done. There is nothing that you can do, because, well, there is no evidence. Every death of every person would be a possible assassination and also possibly a natural death. It would be impossible to know even if the technology was being used.

I presume you have a method for proving something for which there is, by definition, absolutely no evidence?


114 posted on 04/15/2013 7:19:54 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: butterdezillion

This is the only name that I use.


115 posted on 04/15/2013 7:21:23 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: bluecat6
Looking at key figures pasts it seems Valerie Jarrett’s past includes some unfortunate heart attack victims - i.e. her ex-husband and his next wife.


You've broken the code! All we need to do to identify nefarious government operatives is find all the people who know someone who had a heart attack!
116 posted on 04/15/2013 7:26:29 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: Domalais

There is always evidence, if the person who pulled the trigger is still alive.

And there is always the timing of the event to tip people off that it warrants further investigation. That is, unless there are people saying the idea is so absurd that it can’t be a serious issue.

Breitbart keeling over dead less than 5 hours after speaking to Arpaio and affirming that Arpaio’s evidence was good - and less than 12 hours before Arpaio was going to have a press conference announcing that evidence to the world (especially on an issue where the Soros operatives had already threatened almost the entire media with FCC/FEC annihilation and/or death or bodily injury to themselves and their families if they reported on it)... is suspicious. And especially when it happened the same day that Rush Limbaugh (the other somewhat-independent media voice) received out of the blue a package referring to 2 famous assassinations. AND when there are major discrepancies in the stories of Breitbart’s health...

It is made even more suspicious when it is followed up by the arsenic poisoning of a technician in the coroner’s office days before Bretbart’s autopsy was supposed to come out - and though the poisoning was done blatantly enough to be recognized by the coronor and was thus blatant enough for the perpetrator of the poisoning to be found, the LAPD wouldn’t investigate and instead told lies about what the doctors had claimed, in an attempt to make it look like it was just a friendly little heart attack that Cormier had.

The vigilance of the people makes a difference. The sleep and apathy of the people also makes a difference. Those who say, “It couldn’t happen here” or “Only crazy conspiracists would take this seriously” are literally a national security risk.

The evidence itself will tend to either confirm the suspicious nature of a death, or not. The people who don’t want the evidence sorted out and call people crazy if they are willing to look at the evidence are dangerous.


117 posted on 04/15/2013 8:31:45 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion
Aha, well now you've stumbled into my area of expertise. You see, I'm a coincidence theorist, and you have excellent - no, better than that - airtight evidence of a coincidence. We can go ahead and say that this is definitively, inarguably a coincidence.

Frighteningly, the government is responsible for thousands of coincidences every single day. It's unconcionable. They must be stopped.
118 posted on 04/15/2013 9:20:15 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: Domalais

And had their ME photographers killed via arsenic poisoning.

Happens everyday.


119 posted on 04/15/2013 11:09:38 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: butterdezillion
I'm replying to you over here where the conversation started rather than continue to hose up that other thread for no apparent reason.


The coroner put out an autopsy which gave no clue of ever having looked for the only clinical sign of an assassination of the type that had been discussed as potentially being used on Breitbart: a small red entry hole.

You mean, the coroner found no evidence of the sign of the thing for which there is no evidence that it ever happened? I see your point; that much no evidence of anything must certainly be evidence of something! (No, I don't actually see your point.)

The coroner put out an autopsy which gave no clue of ever not having looked for the clinical sign of an assassination. There's just as much evidence for him looking as for him not looking, but it seems to be that because he didn't find the thing you expected (hoped) that he would find, that means he didn't look. I think that says more about you than it does about the coroner.

The coroner also found 60-80% narrowing of major arteries consistent with congestive heart failure. Chemicals that cause heart attacks do not also (after the guy is dead, somehow) then go on to perpetrate a cover up by creating a condition that could have caused a heart attack all on its own. In order to square this with your theory, the assassin would have had to use a Delorean dart which traveled back in time midair to strike Breitbart ten years ago and begin clogging his arteries.


What more needs to be added to all that, before you would consider it worthy of investigation?

An actual piece of evidence. Please note: lack of evidence is not evidence of evidence. Not looking for evidence is also not evidence of evidence. Basically, everything that is not evidence is not evidence.
120 posted on 04/15/2013 11:21:53 AM PDT by Domalais
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