Boy Scouts propose lifting ban on openly gay Scouts, but not leaders

Hotair ^ | 04/19/2013 | MARY KATHARINE HAM

[Antoninus]

Somewhere, Jerry Sandusky is smiling.

I would like one of these pervs to define what a "gay youth" is for me. To my mind, it's a kid who's been molested or had his mind twisted by a scumbag adult.

Any actions like this that seek to sexualize or sexually define kids must be stoutly resisted.

[NKP_Vet]

“The policy is incoherent,” said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. “The proposal says, in essence, that homosexuality is morally acceptable until a boy turns 18 — then, when he comes of age, he’s removed from the Scouts.”

http://news.yahoo.com/boy-scouts-propose-lift-gay-ban-youth-202110079.html

[dfwgator]

The gays don’t want to be just accepted, they want to be celebrated.

[super7man]

Not so easy.

Once you accept gay youths, it’s not sink or swim.

It’s accomodate......

[Maelstorm]

This will get voted down unless the vote is stacked. The methodology used by the Executive Committee on this is really suspect and the choice of Harris polling is suspect.

[Maelstorm]

Yep and just wait till a “gay scout” gets ejected for inappropriate behavior like making a pass at a fellow scout? I’ve seen this thing in churches where an open “bisexual” girl was allowed to influence another girl. There is absolutely no good reason to allow open homosexuals into scouting because they will not stop till it is transformed.

[shhrubbery!]

Why? What is wrong with the current policy, which is, presumably:
"When with other Scouts, keep your sexual thoughts (and your hands) to yourself."

Applies to all boys fairly.

[Chode]

there fixed it...

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake and morally straight.

[highball]

I always thought the real battleground was in regard to leaders not scouts themselves. So this is better than I had feared.

Sure, for now.

But once you have openly gay Eagle Scouts who become adults and want to become Scout leaders, how can you seriously exclude them? If they were honorable and trustworthy enough to be Eagle Scouts, they have to be honorable and trustworthy enough to lead a troop.

If this goes through, we'll have gay Scoutmasters within five years.

[highball]

“The policy is incoherent,” said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. “The proposal says, in essence, that homosexuality is morally acceptable until a boy turns 18 — then, when he comes of age, he’s removed from the Scouts.”

He's right.

"Incoherent" is a good word for it.

[plain talk]

But once you have openly gay Eagle Scouts who become adults and want to become Scout leaders, how can you seriously exclude them? If they were honorable and trustworthy enough to be Eagle Scouts, they have to be honorable and trustworthy enough to lead a troop. If this goes through, we'll have gay Scoutmasters within five years.

I agree it is not good. Just better than I feared. To your point being a scout is different than being a leader so I see no problem excluding gays from being leaders. So I don't agree on that one in short term. I do agree with you we may different situation 5 years form now.

[exDemMom]

I seriously question whether a boy of 10, 12, or younger could know his sexual orientation. Do children really need to be sexualized so young?

[SandRat]

Scoute Ping

[RingerSIX]

If this happens, scouting is over.

[NKP_Vet]

All the sudden the BSA will condone the sin of sodomy? If they go through with this garbage, stick a fork in them, they are done. God does not change his views on sin, and you can not be a sodomite and be living your life according to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.

“On my honor I will do my best
to do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout law;
to help other people at all times;
to keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight”

http://web.archive.org/web/20100206191637/http://www.bsalegal.org/morally-straight-cases-225.asp

[SeekAndFind]

RE: If this happens, scouting is over.

Not really, someone else will form a more CONSERVATIVE and COURAGEOUS alternative.

[hopespringseternal]

There are many more children today that consider themselves 'gay', so it is an issue that has to be dealt with.

More? Maybe. Many? Absolutely not.

Just because the media crow from the rooftops every time they find one doesn't mean there is an epidemic.

My college newspaper tried really hard to make it look like there were mass demonstrations all the time. Except when you happened by a few of these "events" to find the same three idiots actively participating in every one with normal college traffic included to make it look like a mass event.

Part of the left's power is convincing people like you there is even an issue to be considered.

[Octar]

If the "gay" scouts are beaten up by normal scouts while camping in the woods, will anyone be surprised?

I won't.

[Octar]

If the "gay" scouts are beaten up by normal scouts while camping in the woods, will anyone be surprised?

I won't.

[rcrngroup]

There are many more children today that consider themselves 'gay', so it is an issue that has to be dealt with.

How do "children" end up somehow declaring that they are "gay"? Did someone coach them or coerce them to declare themselves "gay"? How would an 8-14 yr old boy ever recognize that they are gay? Do they start committing sodomy as young minors and if so with whom? Or most likely there are homosexual pedophiles who sexually assult young boys and in the process coerce them to homosexual lifestyle?

I ask these questions, because I think that most stories of "children or early teens" who somehow declare themselves to be "gay" are in fact, coached & coerced to say that. I was in Boy Scouts for 6 years (as well as Cub Scouts) and in fact we all went nude swimming on Boy Scout swim night at the Univ of Wis-Stout swimming pool. The issue of "gay" was never and I mean never considered to be any issue or even recognition of gay. We had multiple overnight camp-outs with not even a hint of homosexual behavior. I think that stories of so-called "gay" children or early teens are in fact a bunch of lies being perpetuated by the adult gays & perverts to make it appear as if being a homo pervert is overwhelmingly widespread.

And from Romans 1:18-32, we know that homosexuality & lesbian lifestyle are unnatural and the lowest form of reprobate, devian behavior & outright rebellion against God.