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Bomb Investigation Pivots to a New Mystery: Motive [Really? Try "Islamic Terror"]
NYTimes ^ | April 20, 2013 | JOHN SCHWARTZ

Posted on 04/20/2013 9:53:41 AM PDT by Steelfish

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To: Steelfish

With different facts, the media has no problem recognizing a hate crime when they see it. Why so puzzled now? /Rhetorical question.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 10:20:27 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Steelfish
and to the significance of a trip by one of the bombers took to Chechnya ...

Is the trip to Chechnya been confirmed? I heard Moscow. I have not heard Chechnya although it is the obvious presumption. An overnight train ride away.

22 posted on 04/20/2013 10:25:16 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: SIRTRIS
Has anyone sent the Koran to the reporter?"

Send the Holy Bible and the Holy Torah.

"No soup for you."

"No Koran for you."

Stew on that, big boy.

How about them apples....?!

23 posted on 04/20/2013 10:30:36 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: jimbo123
"Drawing says a world about Islamists.

Unfortunately they will be back. Good reason for people to be free to own personal guns.

24 posted on 04/20/2013 10:41:47 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: SIRTRIS

THE KORAN INSTRUCTS MUSLIMS TO FIGHT CHRISTIANS, JEWS AND CONQUER THE WORLD FOR ISLAM:

(The following are only a few of the verses commanding Muslims to fight)

WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

“AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

ISLAM IS THE MOST RACIST, BIGOTED RELIGION, AND THE KORAN IS FILLED WITH HATE FOR ALL OTHER THAN MUSLIMS:

(It is taught in textbooks in some Muslims countries today that Christians are monkeys and Jews are pigs)

Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

Whoever says Muhammad was black must be killed…(Ash-Shifa, Tr. Aisha Abdarrahman, 2004)

Disbelievers’ faces will be black on the judgment day and they will receive God’s penalty...3:106 White faces on the judgment day will receive God’s mercy...3:107

Allah will reward the doers of good with paradise and much more, their faces will be radiant-stained; they will never be humiliated. The unbelievers’ faces will be turned dark…10:26-27

Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed. (ibid, p.375)

In one Hadith, Mohammed referred to Blacks as Raisn Heads (Sahih Al Bukhary vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256), and as pug nosed slaves in Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47.

Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.9:34

Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

Scourge adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

Tabari IX:113: “Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran.”

Tabari I:280: “Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’ Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid.”

EVIL-CRUELTY IN THE KORAN

Sura (5:33) - “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides...”

Those who die fighting for Allah will go to heaven. 3:195 Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom.

5:33 The transgressors will roast in the Fire and be forced to drink boiling liquids followed by ice cold drinks. 38:55-9

Quran 8:12: “Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;”

Quran 22:19-22: “… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods.”

Quran 8:12: “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.’”

Quran 8:7: “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.’

Quran 8:59: “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy.”

Quran 8:60: “Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you.”

Quran 9.29” “Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.”

Quran 47:4: “Strike off the heads of the disbelievers” and, after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.”

Quran 9:5: “When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Sura 3:151: “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!”

Sura 8:60: “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly.”

Ishaq:327: “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

THE KORAN PROMISES COUNTRIES TO CONQUER AND THE SPOILS THERIN:

Sura 33 “And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden” (33.27) .

MUSLIMS ARE INSTRUCTED IN THE KORAN TO BE STILL UNTIL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE INVADED:

“Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength” (86.17).

THE KORAN INSTRUCTS MUSLIMS TO BE DECEPTIVE:
Quran 3:28 Don’t have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.

SHARIA LAW MUST RULE THE WORLD

Allah’s law (Sharia) is binding to all…4:135

Allah accepts only Sharia and no other laws…7:29, 57:25

Allah is the Law-giver; He appointed Muhammad to implement the only correct laws (Sharia laws)…45:18

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

THE FOUNDER OF CAIR HAS TOLD US PLAINLY OF ISLAM’S OBJECTIVE IN AMERICA:

“ISLAM ISN’T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don’t need to look somewhere else.”

OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR, the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

_______________________

Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.

Ali Sina


25 posted on 04/20/2013 10:48:52 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type)a)
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To: Steelfish
The bigots at the NYT would not find the motive of a bitter, bible-clinging gun-clutcher mysterious even though they rarely bomb anybody.

But let somebody known for such activities perpetrate a terrorist bombing, and they are at a loss for an explanation.

26 posted on 04/20/2013 10:49:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: Steelfish; All
Send a priest, a minister, a rabbi, and a clear thinking iman to talk to him daily.

The iman must be guaranteed to be western-oriented and peaceful - if there are any peaceful imans to be found.

There will a monitor person at each of his contacts while in the hospital to make sure nothing is misunderstood and no one is hurt. Snipers and police cover every door and window.

Can he be privately tape recorded?

What is the MA state law on privately taping, unbenoundcedist (sic) to this fella' knowledge? How would it hold up in court - civilian or military.

Got to tie all those strings - like Miranda and such - before taking HIS RIGHTS away from him. Got to make prosecution stick. Then everyday tell him the different wall is the eastern wall.

"Oh, no, honey; east is this way."

"Oh, child, who told you that was facing east, that is south".

Make sure he is thoroughly waterboarded until they pull every bit of information out of him.

Then play with him like a cat on a mouse or on a lizard so that he might say more. Play with his brain. He will eventually crack and more will be forth-coming.

When all else fails play "It's a Small World After All" on continuous loop."

May not, we don't want police and hospital people to have to listen, too!

27 posted on 04/20/2013 11:03:16 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But let somebody known for such activities perpetrate a terrorist bombing, and they are at a loss for an explanation.

So true. I wonder if these people have any inkling of how absolutely stupid they look to the rest of the world. Let’s all scratch our heads and wonder what could have driven muslim extremists to carry out terror. I’ve never heard of such a thing- have you? After all, we let them in, we ‘accepted’ them, educated them. They HAD to have liked us- just HAD to!


28 posted on 04/20/2013 11:29:24 AM PDT by usmom
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To: Steelfish

The liberal narrative goes like this: Tamerlan says to Dzhokha...”Yo bro...you got anything going on?...I was just listening to Rush Limbaugh and I got this idea to bomb the Boston Marathon...I got some bomb plans from the NRA web site and a bunch of illegal guns at a gun show... it will be easy. You with me bro?”


29 posted on 04/20/2013 11:50:14 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: RC one
"It would be nice to know if they had been planning this for months, weeks, or days."

I'm wondering if they are like Russia - they have FIVE-YEAR plans.

Maybe they think of these as little squermishes (sic) leading up to Califate.

30 posted on 04/20/2013 12:01:53 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: ColdOne
"Jihad maybe? Kill all infidels maybe? Sharia for all maybe?"

"And, your little dog, too!".......Wizard of Oz.

Maybe they want to turn some of us into their slaves, too....

31 posted on 04/20/2013 12:04:55 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: patriot08
Oh, yes!

They do want Christians and Jews, too. Maybe homosexuals. Maybe filth coming out of Hollywood, Wall Street, etc.

<> It never ends with these POS's.

But they HAVE to be stopped.

We NEED another HERO!!!

We need to pray every single day to be rid of these THINGS.

32 posted on 04/20/2013 12:10:38 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: mountainlion

Interesting — so the two were double agents, ehhh. Well — it’s DEBKA but they do have some good observations.

I do think they are going to have a hard time getting anything out of the kid, afterall it was his older brother who went to Russia, became a devout Muzzie, and probably had all the contacts. He probably had his little brother on a need to know basis — STOP.


33 posted on 04/20/2013 12:33:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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