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Four reasons why the Boston bombing is more shocking than you think
Rare.US ^ | April 21, 2013 | Jim Robbins

Posted on 04/21/2013 8:32:57 AM PDT by Abakumov

Rather than what was hoped – that this was an isolated, spontaneous and inexplicable act by two troubled young men – it appears that the Boston bombing was part of a long term, well planned, large scale effort by Islamic terrorists with foreign ties to bring jihad to U.S. soil. And if the plot was that extensive, the two most important questions now are, how did the U.S. government fail to detect it, and what else do terrorists have planned for this country that we don’t know about?

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; bostonbombing; counterterrorism; islam; jihad; jihadinamerica; terrorism; tsarnaev
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1 posted on 04/21/2013 8:32:57 AM PDT by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov

Probably just the beginning of a long hot summer.


2 posted on 04/21/2013 8:36:57 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Abakumov

They knew and allowed it to happen. To them, the more dead Americans now will be less for them to take out in the near future.

The now maimed will be easy targets.


3 posted on 04/21/2013 8:37:44 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Abakumov

The MSM is pushing the “home-grown terrorist” line just as hard as they can.


4 posted on 04/21/2013 8:38:05 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: FES0844

Mainly waiting to see how Obama blames it on Bush.


5 posted on 04/21/2013 8:38:14 AM PDT by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov

But GM is alive and bin laden is dead!


6 posted on 04/21/2013 8:38:14 AM PDT by 867V309
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To: Abakumov

Please do not believe most of the news stories on this topic. For example, they are trying to find out if the bombers acted alone. Duh!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 04/21/2013 8:38:24 AM PDT by District13 (Keep the faith)
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To: Abakumov
Impossible headlines.com:

Jiddah Camel Marathon Race Bombed by Christian Extremists

8 posted on 04/21/2013 8:38:34 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: Abakumov

Yes, the borders have never been safer...for terrorists that is.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/04/israeli-publication-says-bostons.html


9 posted on 04/21/2013 8:39:02 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Abakumov

Biggest shock is that after all that has happened, the socialist propaganda media wants to portray this as the worst terrorist attack since 911 while discarding terrorists attack such as the massacre at Fort Hood and dozens of others as if the American people don’t remember.

What doesn’t come as a surprise if how they want to seek this as a unifying “let’s move on” event while still attempting to promote the disarming of American citizens.

And people wonder why Americans won’t ever give up their weapons...


10 posted on 04/21/2013 8:39:42 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Abakumov
A good start would be to quit putting stupid fat women in charge of our National Security. Another idea would be to quit recruiting clueless dopey college kids into the Federal Police and National intelligence services.

And it doesn't bode well that people like the Mayor and Police Chief of Boston both think that these guys acted alone. Words begin to fail me now.

11 posted on 04/21/2013 8:40:34 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: FES0844

“Probably just the beginning of a long hot summer.”

My sense exactly. This sort of thing could have been going on since 9-11. Aside from sudden jihad syndrome we’ve seen a few thawarted attacks. Now Boston is hit. Time will tell...


12 posted on 04/21/2013 8:42:04 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Enterprise

Not to mention the Mass governor having no idea what the motive could have been...


13 posted on 04/21/2013 8:42:14 AM PDT by Abakumov
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To: FES0844

Furthermore, the Cambridge Mosque is trying to distance itself from the bombers. My opinion: A pack of lies. A guest on FOX News this morning said that Mosque received some public funds because it was touted as a “community center”. Further, radical Muslim literature and hate-filled preaching took place in that Mosque. The Mosque leadership thinks we Americans are dumb enough and gullible enough to believe their lies. They are getting away with murder while American governmental officials stick their heads up their own butts.


14 posted on 04/21/2013 8:42:30 AM PDT by District13 (Keep the faith)
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To: Steely Tom

The MSM (murder supporting media) is in full whitewash mode.


15 posted on 04/21/2013 8:42:59 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Abakumov
"Not to mention the Mass governor having no idea what the motive could have been..."

I can't say it enough - GOD HELP US!

16 posted on 04/21/2013 8:44:11 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: FES0844
The religion of Islam strikes again

And then MIchele Obama goes o visit the Muslim Saudi that was probably an accomplice to the 2 Chechen Muslims

The news media is trying to hide this . we have to get this out.

17 posted on 04/21/2013 8:44:55 AM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: Abakumov
This tragedy rests squarely on the shoulders of the 0bama regime, and their relentless badgering of veterans, Tea Party members and other various 'right wing extremist' groups.. Janet Napolitano's focus has been in the WRONG place as well as 0bama's CIA, FBI, being populated with Muslim-sympathizers who've all but abolished any mention of the word 'Islamic'.

What did 0bama THINK was going to happen? Oh, that's right, he KNEW this would happen, but it gives the DHS the authority to shut down entire American cities and raid people's homes without warrants.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS KILLS and it will continue to kill. 0bama and his Weather Underground continues to operate vicariously through Islamic Extremists in the U.S. and he WANTS more of them here.

18 posted on 04/21/2013 8:45:21 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: District13
The Mosque leadership thinks we Americans are dumb enough and gullible enough to believe their lies. They are getting away with murder while American governmental officials stick their heads up their own butts.

Well, one must admit that the governmental officials in Cambridge and Boston have their heads stuck just where you allege. There are plenty of places in America where this is not the case.

Which is why a CWII is probably inevitable.

19 posted on 04/21/2013 8:45:22 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: FES0844
The religion of Islam strikes again

And then MIchele Obama goes to visit the Muslim Saudi that was probably an accomplice to the 2 Chechen Muslims

The news media is trying to hide this . we have to get this out.

20 posted on 04/21/2013 8:45:30 AM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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21 posted on 04/21/2013 8:45:58 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Abakumov
... it appears that the Boston bombing was part of a long term, well planned, large scale effort by Islamic terrorists with foreign ties to bring jihad to U.S. soil.

I'm not dismissing this statement out of hand, but I'd really like to see what evidence this author has to support this claim.

The stories about this incident as I've seen them to date actually indicate the exact opposite. I had middle-school classmates who probably could have done exactly what these guys did in Boston -- and they wouldn't have even needed the help of their own parents, let alone a well planned effort with foreign assistance.

The really big story here is that it really didn't take much for these two mutants to shut down an entire U.S. city for an entire day on Friday while the second suspect was still on the loose.

22 posted on 04/21/2013 8:46:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Enterprise

I don’t care about fat, and the mayor and chief are just spitting out the talking points they’re given.


23 posted on 04/21/2013 8:46:42 AM PDT by steve8714 (Any homosexual man can marry any woman he wants. Just like any normal man.)
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To: FES0844

I am sure that some group also took note of the fact that a substantial portion of a rather sleepy Texas town was destroyed by a fire and explosion at a fertilizer plant. We have lots of targets just like West, Texas, and I would hope that they are paying attention and beef up their security.


24 posted on 04/21/2013 8:46:49 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Abakumov

Not home-grown.... inspired by violent Islamic jihad, an ideology that is foreign to this country and all its best traditions of tolerance and freedom to practice religion of choice. These brothers were not domestic terrorists. They were instruments of an international terrorist movement.


25 posted on 04/21/2013 8:47:25 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Democrat_media

We’ll see what Glenn Beck has to say tomorrow or Tuesday. I hope his security is code orange even though Janet Napolitano abolished the terror threat level color coding because it’s ‘Islamophobic’.


26 posted on 04/21/2013 8:47:30 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: NoGrayZone

It was Massachusetts. That must be emphasized.

The need to believe peace prevails trumps the fact there is actually war.


27 posted on 04/21/2013 8:47:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: tomkat

28 posted on 04/21/2013 8:48:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Democrat_media
Here's my dumb question:

If there was any chance in hell that the Saudi guy might have been an accomplice of the two culprits, what would be the reason for the president's wife to pay him a visit in the hospital (assuming the report about her visit is accurate)?

I mean -- wouldn't you want to maintain a low profile and avoid risking some embarrassing revelations later?

29 posted on 04/21/2013 8:49:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: All
Boston Mayor Menino (he was the one in the wheelchair at the presser---injured in auto accident), then-Mass Sen John Kerry and every pol who sucked up should be rigorously scrutinized ---- possibly charged with aiding and abettin terror against Americans.

(BOSTON MAYOR) MENINO'S MOSQUE
The Phoenix ^ | November 24, 2008 | David S. Bernstein / FR Posted by Prospero

Most Boston locals concede that getting anything of substance accomplished in Boston is a Herculean task. Residents have all but embraced the principle of civic inaction with a perverse kind of local pride. In the end, who you know is probably more important than what you are trying to do.

And there is no doubt that little is accomplished without the approval and support of the mayor, Thomas M. Menino.

So it is with the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center (ISBCC) near the intersection of Tremont Street and Martin Luther King Boulevard. Better known as the Roxbury mosque, the ISBCC has been in the works for more than 20 years. A few weeks ago it finally opened its doors for prayer — five years late, millions over budget, and still far from complete.

While the story of the building of the Roxbury mosque may not be worthy of a Hollywood epic, it does contain the stuff of a good television drama: community intrigue, religious conflict, media controversy, foreign money, suspicions of extremist ties, and once-cocksure public officials who have since retreated into a zone of silence. (Excerpt) Read more at thephoenix.com ..

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Kerry's "credentials," presented to Ohaha when the Secy of State job became available.


30 posted on 04/21/2013 8:50:16 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Abakumov

Impossible. Preezy said AQ is all but wiped out, its remnants on the run. This is just a pack of Republican lies, designed to keep the Preezy from fixing the economy for us. /s


31 posted on 04/21/2013 8:51:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Steely Tom
The MSM is pushing the “home-grown terrorist” line just as hard as they can.

Also big pictures of their 'white white' faces... Not much on their religion or beliefs.. which appear to be totally radical Muslim.

32 posted on 04/21/2013 8:53:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: Grams A

West, Texas as opposed to west Texas, is flyover country.

Boston is the centroid of the Neo European ideaology. The events in Boston, even though the number of deaths is trivial in comparison to a bad car wreck, belie the propaganda line.


33 posted on 04/21/2013 8:53:24 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
It's not just Massachusetts, it's the Boston area. One of the stories behind the scenes here that doesn't get a lot of attention is that the Boston area has many expensive schools that probably would have gone out of business years ago were it not for a huge influx of foreign students like the two who carried out this attack. And since Islamic culture doesn't place a high priority on education for their women (and in radical circles actually forbids it), the vast majority of the students they import from the Middle East are young men just like these two mutants. So they end up here alone without local family connections, with no female companions, and surrounded by people who think they're aliens (literally and figuratively).

Is it any wonder why these places are breeding grounds for this kind of sh!t?

34 posted on 04/21/2013 8:54:30 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Alberta's Child

“I’m not dismissing this statement out of hand, but I’d really like to see what evidence this author has to support this claim.”

That’s pretty much what I was thinking. However, it does indicate how much mayhem can be caused even by 2 malcontents without consciences.

I wonder if Boston has signs ALL OVER like we do in the NYC/NJ area reminding people to stay alert and report things like abandoned back packs. I’ve been traveling by mass transit the past few months and Newark Penn station is always being patrolled by cops with dogs, I’m assuming they are bomb sniffing dogs. Havent’ seen the same in other facilities, but I’m not in those facilities very often.

It WOULD be nice if every time something like this happens we didn’t have to listen to the absurd charade of blaming “the right”. Maybe they should just shut up until a person’s motives (or presumed motive, or even lack of motive) are discovered, but the MSM’s great fantasy of a violent right wing is despicable and just plain s.t.u.p.i.d.


35 posted on 04/21/2013 8:54:58 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: bert

I wonder if this will change any minds here in the NE.

Can’t wait to go to work tomorrow and tell my fake Jewish co-worker “TOLD YOU SO”.

I know, very childish, but I MUST!


36 posted on 04/21/2013 8:57:38 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Abakumov
A relic of 7th. century barbarism notwithstanding, when you have a narcissistic prick for a president who is more concerned with playing golf, going on vacation and holding'' house party def jams'' in The White House is it any wonder sh!t like this is going to happen? On top of said same narcissistic prick having gone around the world apologizing and bowing and scrapping to every scumbag country we should have glassed over long ago, what would anyone expect? When you're the biggest dog on the block and a freakin' French poodle can tweak your nose and bite you on the ass and the only thing you who about it is apologize then you are seen as weak and Hell is going to follow. How much more are we willing to put up with? This son of a bitch of a ''president'' is beyond 'incompetent'', he's criminally incompetent, HE"S ENDANGERING US ALL AND OUR COUNTRY!!! GET RID OF HIM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BEFORE WE HAVE ANOTHER 9/11?!! OR WORSE!!!!
37 posted on 04/21/2013 8:59:53 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Alberta's Child
“If there was any chance in hell that the Saudi guy might have been an accomplice of the two culprits, what would be the reason for the president's wife to pay him a visit in the hospital (assuming the report about her visit is accurate)?”

You might ask where Obama got the money for college or how the hell he even managed to get into law school in the first place. He's never exhibited any evidence (in my opinion) that he's ever studied anything in his life, in spite of being held up as the smartest man on the planet. He's a dunce, a joke and an impostor being held up by his puppetmasters.

38 posted on 04/21/2013 9:00:27 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: jocon307
Good post.

For what it's worth, I never heard any media reports about this incident involving anyone "blaming the right" for anything ... probably because it's been more than a decade since I've watched or read anything that is considered a "credible media organization" in this country.

39 posted on 04/21/2013 9:01:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Travis McGee
In the very wildest dreams of your youth, did you ever imagine that someone could type : Pravda is currently much higher on the credibility charts than the Amerikan Enemedia   and you'd find yourself tending to agree ? !
40 posted on 04/21/2013 9:02:14 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Understood. All the more reason for him to send his Sasquatch wife to some innocuous event halfway across the country instead of a hospital room with a suspicious Saudi national who is allegedly scheduled for deportation next week.


41 posted on 04/21/2013 9:04:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Democrat_media

If it comes out the Saudi in the Hx was an accomplice, thar would mean Moochie could be indicted. She is a common US citizen.


42 posted on 04/21/2013 9:05:37 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Abakumov
What is shocking is that there will be as much
accountability as there was for Fast&Furious
OR for the BenGhazi Treason. NONE.

"What difference does it make?"

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream.
It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same,
or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children
and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
"
President Ronald Reagan

43 posted on 04/21/2013 9:05:41 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Abakumov
And if the plot was that extensive, the two most important questions now are, how did the U.S. government fail to detect it, and what else do terrorists have planned for this country that we don’t know about?

I find an assumption in this sentence amazing. It is that a successful attack by definition means that somebody in the government "failed."

If anybody remembers the days after 9/11, we all assumed that attacks would be ongoing. In fact, this is apparently the first successful bombing by Islamic extremists in America since then, 11.5 years.

If anybody in 9/12 had prophesied that in the next 12 years we would lose only three more American lives to Islamic bombs in America, he would have been laughed down.

There are at minimum some millions of Islamic extremists in the world wanting to attack America and Americans. One bombing in almost 12 years under such circumstances is amazing success, not failure.

This illustrates what I consider one of the most irritating aspects of the American character, common to both right and left. This is the assumption that in any conflict with others, we are in control. That if we have difficulties, it's not because the other side fights with skill or cunning, but ONLY because we screwed up.

This is at the root of leftist criticisms of the Iraqi invasion as having "no exit strategy." It assumes that we're the only player on the board, as if any battle plan survives contact with the enemy. There are (many!) legitimate criticisms of our actions in Iraq, but the notion that all would have gone smoothly if we had the "right" plan is not one of them. The other side gets a vote in war.

That's a leftist critique. A rightie equivalent is the claim that any successful attack on Americans (now that Obama is president) can be only because the government is either A. incompetent, or B. complicit.

While either or both may be the case, the charge should be proven, not assumed. Sometimes attacks succeed because it is not possible to guard everything all the time. Not without setting up a totalitarian society, and probably not then.

44 posted on 04/21/2013 9:06:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: FES0844

Lo, the truth about Islam has been spoken by...I still can’t believe it...of all people...http://joemiller.us/2013/04/bill-maher-comparing-violence-of-islam-to-christianity-liberal-bullsht/ you must watch this video, Bill Maher sounds like the voice of reason, I never thought I would ever agree with Maher but when he’s right he’s right.


45 posted on 04/21/2013 9:09:07 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Abakumov

Bookmarking for later...


46 posted on 04/21/2013 9:11:43 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Abakumov

47 posted on 04/21/2013 9:15:03 AM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin is smiling from hell)
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To: Alberta's Child
So they end up here alone without local family connections, with no female companions,

Not true. Ask any LEO at any one of the Boston colleges how many of their female students have been raped by the ME males. Then ask what happened to the rapists. The answer will be they were on a plane immediately back to Saudi Arabia, UAR, Yemin, whatever.

48 posted on 04/21/2013 9:16:07 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: steve8714

I’ll compromise a little then. Fat is ok, but stupid isn’t.


49 posted on 04/21/2013 9:20:37 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Abakumov

Who remotely triggered these bombs?


50 posted on 04/21/2013 9:21:13 AM PDT by Raster Man
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