Posted on 04/23/2013 5:46:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
I hope that at least one homeowner will stand up and take this to court. The precedent set by this will do terrible damage to this country. Invading the homes of citizens, tossing them outside, and inflicting property damage will become the customary way of hunting fugitives for crimes much lesser than terrorism. Oh, that won’t happen here? In the past five years a lot of things “I never thought I’d see in America” have happened in America.
By the way, are there any dogs or cats still alive inside Watertown homes?
They should deal with according to the law. It’s simple.
No one here has shown that the police in Watertown did anything but that.
Now is this guy getting into the boat the night before or getting out of the boat after he has been bleeding, on the run, and shot in the throat
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/23/article-2313297-196FF6ED000005DC-425_634x344.jpg
"Well, if the police have to do something like this, there must be a good reason. It makes me feel so much safer."
The dogs did pick-up a scent but then lost the scent.
Details about the boat owner.
Yes, I would have had K9 involved immediately. At this point, I have no reason to believe that K9 was not involved, I just haven't seen any footage of any tracking happening. It could have happened though, I don't know.
One problem is that for K9 to effectively track, you can't have 9,000 people running all over the place. It messes up the track and is distracting to the animal. Normally you set up a perimeter, and K9 searches inside that perimeter with all other officers staying back / behind K9.
You did not answer 101stAirborneVet's question:
Given that on an almost nightly basis, violent felons (murderers, armed carjackers, AWIK [Assault with Intent to Kill], etc.) run from the police in DC and get away into a neighborhood, do you support the DC police doing each night what Boston did in this particular event?
It's a simple question. Is your answer "yes" or "no"?
Thanks Travis. I've been pointing that out for a couple years on FReep now.
If there is one constant with this incident and the recent one on the west coast it is to see how police become unhinged when a criminal attacks them and especially when he kills an officer or someone inside their circles of association. How else can you explain why the Kalifornia cops were so quick to shot up vehicles in two separate incidents?
The treatment of residents of Watertown by officers parallels the treatment of the two women in Kali who were delivering newspapers. In both cases we are just lucky that nobody got shot. This was police unfettered by law and they must be held accountable or it will become too easy for this to happen again.
I live in a little town and if there was a dangerous violent criminal on the loose and the Sheriff wanted to look around my house/property I would have no objection. I would have a serious problem with the sheriff if he came at me with guns drawn aimed at me.
It doesn’t say the tarp was cut. It says a retention strap was cut.
So I am asking people familiar with tarps if that makes sense given what you see of Bomber getting INTO the boat.
It doesn’t make sense to me.
So does that mean he was getting OUT of the boat after the robot
It doesn’t make sense to me given his supposed condition.
I assure you that if your local sheriff thought there was a real possibility that there was a terrorist bomber in your house holding your family hostage he would have his gun drawn. That’s reality.
What I do know is, I thank God I do not live in the Northeast or in any major metro area. I am putting my house on the market next week in an attempt to move further out in the sticks. As far as I can from any city and their metrosexual ways as I can get.
Most Good Germans cheered too.
http://www.globalanimal.org/2013/04/19/will-dogs-nose-for-crime-find-second-boston-bomber/95856/
There were dogs used in the search and you are probably correct that 9000 people messes up the track. I was told that initially the dogs traced the suspect to basement of house. The suspect was hiding there but had left. The dogs could not find the suspect after this location.
No one here has shown that the police in Watertown did anything but that.
Actually, in several threads you have been provided with case law controlling fresh / hot / immediate pursuit, as well as exigency. You apparently decline to avail yourself of their instruction.
The law of the land is the US Constitution, which guarantees that We are to be secure in our persons and property. The exceptions carved out by case law are narrow and specific.
The searches in Boston were anything but narrow and specific.
You argue in a frustrating way. You dodge questions, misdirect topics, answer in generalities and make vague statements like "according to the law. It's simple".
To me, this is indicative of someone who simply wants to believe a certain way, arguments to the contrary be damned.
I will just caution you that, in my opinion, you cannot see the forest for the trees here. I could have used your position to justify thousands of searches during my career; searches that I would have considered unconstitutional and morally reprehensible. As a law enforcement officer, I felt it was my duty to protect the people and their rights. You seem to omit the second part.
I’ve already answered this question numerous times, even if folks want to pretend that I haven’t.
The rules are the same everywhere in the country that I’m aware of. If there is an imminent threat to the lives of the citizens, such exigent circumstances guide the police.
They knew at that point the identity of the person that they were looking for. None of those people who came out of that house looked like the 19 year old Chechen.
And they are pointing their AKs at these people and making them put their hands up as if they were. WTH
Atleast they didn’t shoot the dog.
Anyone the location of the house where he was in the basement???
I would like to see how far away it was from the boat.
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